My new to me Mosin M44

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When I was an FFL holder I ordered some 44s that were supposed to be in fair cond . When they came in 2 were NEW in the wrapping paper- I kept 1 of them when you shoot the thing a fireball 5 ft long blasts out the front laying the grass flat[and KICKS Like a MULE!
Lice looking rifle !!!!!!!!!
 
Bartkowski said:
Not another one...M44's don't kick that bad.
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I'm a bit of a weenie for recoil, and I'll go with that. It certainly lets me know when I'm not holding properly, though, as I tend to get the brunt of it through the edge of the buttplate rather than the flat. I notice less with rounded buttplates, and of course with rubber pads.
 
Not another one...M44's don't kick that bad. Just hold the gun tight in your shoulder like you should and your fine. It's mostly the concussion that gets to me.
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It makes me wonder why they have so much muzzle blast. They've got a 20.4" barrel after all. Those eastern bloc countries must have used some really slow burning powder.
 
It makes me wonder why they have so much muzzle blast. They've got a 20.4" barrel after all. Those eastern bloc countries must have used some really slow burning powder.
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The 7.62x54r was likely designed with the 30in barrel of the M1891 in mind, with powder to suit. My M91/30 produces almost no flash in comparison.
 
when you shoot the thing a fireball 5 ft long blasts out the front laying the grass flat[and KICKS Like a MULE!
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Sounds like you are shooting prone. Yeah, that would hurt. It doesn't seem to kick too bad from a standing position though.
 
I've been meaning to get one of these for a long time. theres a curio and relic show coming up, so i think i might have to get tone if the price is right.
 
Not another one...M44's don't kick that bad. Just hold the gun tight in your shoulder like you should and your fine. It's mostly the concussion that gets to me.
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Regardless of how you hold it, you will start feeling it after 15 or 20 rounds. Simple physics - that energy has to go somewhere, and with a solid steel buttplate most of it is going straight into your shoulder.

Of course, this isn't exclusive to the Mosin, so if you're suggesting that the M44 isn't bad in a relative sense, I agree - they all start to bite after a number of rounds.

I bought a $20 slip on recoil pad for my Mosins and I can enjoy shooting them all day now with no pain or soreness whatsoever.
 
Simple physics - that energy has to go somewhere, and with a solid steel buttplate most of it is going straight into your shoulder.
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I've seriously bruised my shoulder with mil-surp ammo in 25 rounds, bad enough that I couldn't convince my finger to pull the trigger anymore. you have to get that butt up there just right and in tight.

I have found, however, that my hand-loads not only shoot more accurately, but a lot softer than the mil-surp stuff. I can shoot those all day and not feel it.
 
congrats on the mosin! I only have a 91/30, you should stay away from heavy ball ammo. I can only shoot around 20 in my rifle before I put it down. I imagine they have to be pretty harsh in an m44.

enjoy it though!
 
Yeah, some of the "Heavy Ball" ammo is loaded with a powder that has a slightly slower buring rate than asbestos....

The heavy stuff usually makes a very impressive fireball from my M-44...puts my .50 "Trade Rifle" flintlock to shame
 
I bought a cheap recoil pad and that changed it from only being able to shoot less than 20 rounds rounds to being able to shoot all afternoon.

I know how tight to hold a rifle, I've sighted/patterned turkey guns before and I feel that the M44 recoil with the standard stock was as bad or worse than shooting my Mossberg with 3" turkey loads. The slip on recoil pad completely transformed my comfort level.

On the plus side I shot some decent 3.5" groups at 100 yards with the iron sights last outing.

Next step...handloading :)
 
Regardless of how you hold it, you will start feeling it after 15 or 20 rounds. Simple physics - that energy has to go somewhere, and with a solid steel buttplate most of it is going straight into your shoulder.
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True the same amount of force is there each time, but if you hold it right you will not feel it as much.

I sometimes use a recoil pad on my m38 too, but usually don't. The only time I use it is if I am shooting heavy ball from a shooting bench that is way to low in the summer. If one of those conditions is not met I don't see the need. The bench is the main problem though. They are poorly constructed and cause me to hunch over and hold the gun on my collar bone.
 
On a side note, watch your rate of fire in hot weather. I only took two rifles to the range today and did the vast majority of my shooting with the M44. The barrel got so hot at one point that small parts of the finish on the upper handguard began to cook off (either that or there was some cosmoline left in there and it was boiling out - and messing with the finish in the process). :eek:
 
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