My one complaint about Glocks....

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I love me G17..accurate,100% reliable.....but...they all look the same.......That's why there's never a Glock picture thread......aside from some w/ different slides...the all look like fake plastic guns...again,I LOVE mine and wouldn't sell it,and I trust my life to it......but it's just like everybody elses!!!At least w/ my Taurus pt99.....I'm the only one I know who has one aroun here,so that's something.......:confused:
 
my issue is I see too many brand new shooters who come in for their first range session toting a new Glock like the gangsters carry. I strongly believe that a brand new shooter should start on a gun that has an actual slide or frame mounted safety. One they have mastered the use of that, then more on to a Glock. To me they are an intermediate/advanced shooter type of weapon system. It is bad enough try to teach a new shooter to keep their finger off of the trigger until they are ready to fire, yet they have to dry fire the gun in order to disassemble it. That just makes me feel like I took 2 steps back from the looks I get on faces, not to mention the question " isn't that dangerous"
 
I can't wait to see the replies to this thread! :)

If you think there aren't any Glock Picture threads, then you've never visited GlockTalk :p

Personally, I think my Glocks are pretty cool looking.

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ChickenHawk
 
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Yeah, you guys figured it out.....I want a Glock thread............I thought I was pretty slick.....:D
 
jimmyjoebob, how do you deal with revolvers then? No safety.....

Agree with you about the need to explain dry fire procedures. That should help with the disassembly procedures..
 
The first handgun I bought for myself and really learned to seriously shoot on was the Glock 24 shown above. When I was 20 and shopping for a gun one of the specific things that attracted me to the Glock was it's simplicity of operation allowing me to concentrate on safe and effective use of the gun and not in memorizing operational procedures.

I developed a lot of safe habits that have served me well with my subsequant "safer" guns. Too casual of an attitude tward firearms and unsafe practices will contribute far more to a ND than not having a manual safety.

Just the way I approched it. YMMV.
 
Al- I really don't have a beef with revolvers. The average DA pull on a wheel gun is right at 10lbs. With the Glock we are talking 5.5 lbs or less. I also have an issue with the trigger "safety" I think that is a poor choice of words. Perhaps it should be called a " snag prevention device". As I stated with new shooters I try to hark about always checking the safety and making sure it is used. With the Glock it is really hard to tell if one is loaded. More experienced shooters know that when they see a Glock with the trigger to the rear they know the the chamber is clear. I just think it is too hard to explain that concept to most new shooters. In fact if I can, I try to get them to start with a wheel gun to learn proper mechanics, and then move them to a auto. Then again that is my method, I am sure you have your own way as well.


As for disassembly, I tell them drop the mag, rack the slide 5 times then dry fire in a safe direction. Then check for the magazine again, rack the slide 5 more times and dry fire a 2nd time. Then begin the take down process. I really dislike the takedown process for the Glock, but that comes from watching another officer unload her supposedly unloaded weapon into the back of another officer sitting in front of her during a training session. He almost died. As I said before I think it is a good system, but for more a more advanced shooter.
 
I'm in the camp that says Glocks are put-a-bag-over-it ugly. Just the designed look, not the use of plastics. I got over that bias years ago. I know Glocks function extremely well. But there are other equally reliable choices that don't say "blah" to me. But obviously we don't all agree so choice is good.
 
Yes, Glocks are pretty damn fugly. However, I don't care a bit. The main reason I own my Glocks is for self protection/CCW. Since there's no open carry here in Texas, nobody else is gonna see my gun. If I want a pretty-looking range gun, I have other firearms that'll fulfill that role. Form follows function.
 
I love the look of the Glock but I agree about the safety. I wouldn't mind owning several of them -- and I intend to -- but I think a gun with a safety is a better choice for a new shooter. I gave my father my Beretta rather than suggest he buy a Sig or Glock. True, revolvers don't have a safety but then they also don't discharge as easily as a Glock...
 
JJB

Instead of all that racking and dry firing, how about simply verifying both visually and physically (use your finger) that there is no round in the chamber OR the magwell.

I am sorry, but for that incident to happen the officer in question was a moron. She actually pointed a weapon at someone and pulled the trigger:barf:

No pistol is safe from that level of incompetence
 
Glocks may not have a manual safety, but I think there's just as much danger in becoming too dependent on a manual safety, particularly for new shooters. If you give people a crutch, they will use it. "Oh, I shouldn't have put my finger on the trigger yet. Well, the safety's on. I know I shouldn't do it, but as long as the safety's on, I should be okay. I'll just have to remember to be better about not putting my finger on the trigger until I'm ready to shoot. Thank goodness for that manual safety."

If they make a mistake like putting their finger on the trigger when they shoudn't, how can they/we be sure they're sure that the safety is on safe?

The best safety device is between the ears. If they can't ever learn to use that one, no manual safety in the world is going make a difference.
 
Obiwan-
oh I agree the officer in question was a complete idiot whom I wouldn't trust with a whiffle bat much less an actual firearm. She could also be the only person in existence who could injure herself with a spork. but that is another topic for another time.

As for your suggestion about the finger in the chamber, sure it will work too. However I find that my way works well and when I explain why so many times and then what happened, it seems to sink in well. Besides all the slide racking really smooths out the action as well.:D
 
Finger in the chamber works great until the one time you accidentally release the slide too soon and then goodbye fingernail. :eek:
 
So how do those sites work for you Black Snowman?

As for the thread, I like how they look. A Tennifer finish in silver like the Witness line has would be a nice diversion, but I can deal with black or black! And customized ones look good too.
 
The newly released American Handgunner Tactical Annual has a very informative article written by Alex Hamilton on the Cominilli Safety For Glocks.

It appears to be an easy install, works like a 1911 and is in the same location as a 1911 safety.

Seems like it would make a good gun even better. Especially if a BG ever gets your gun.
 
The DoubleRing sights are a massive improvement over the stock dot and bucket sights. Especially with the front sight sooting up like it does. JP includes some nice, bright orange front sight paint which I don't bother with.

It's quicker sight alignment than any of the other iron sights I've used and you can still see your target. You don't have to remember how high or low to hold the sights over the target. You just put where you want the bullet to go in the center off both rings and it goes there. At least within 25 yards anyway. I'm able to shoot much more accurately with them than I could the stock sights and they're very durable.

IIRC they were almost $100 once they were shipped but their main competition for my money, the Tasco Optima 2000, had been out long enough to report that they lasted 2 years tops before crapping out and even less when mounted to a slide so i decided to go with the DoubleRings.

So, I'm happy with them and would recomend them to anyone for target or copetition shooting where allowed. They are not available in a night sight version last I checked (not sure how that would work anyway) but they are pretty easy to find and line up, even in low light.

They can be had at: http://www.jprifles.com/
(no affiliation, I just like 'em :) )
 
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