My Possible Future Workplace And "Weapons"

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I recently came from a job interview for Kroger's, which is a grocery store. I was offered my choice of jobs (of which I chose deli). When he asked me if I had any questions, the first question I asked was about CCW. I plan to hold this job for awhile and I will more than likely still be there when I am 21. I was SHOCKED at the answer I got! No, it was not a "Yes we honor your permit good sir" but rather a very polite "You have every right to ensure your safety and defend yourself however we do not allow weapons on the premises". I inquired about having a Multi-Tool such as a leatherman on my belt, since I will be riding a mountain bike on occasion to work. I was told that I would have a place to secure my bike and then he asked me, "whats a multitool, one of them things that does a bunch of different stuff?" :scrutiny:. I promptly informed him of what it is, showed him and stated my business with such an object (biking) and was given clearance. So far so good. I did NOT inquire about carrying a pocket knife . Mean old evil pocket knives :rolleyes:. Anyways, I think I will carry my benchmade low rise, i.e. unclipped. Questions, Comments, Kudos, Snide remarks?
 
Rule of thumb with employment is to read the employee's manual, scanning for the weapons policy (if any). If no rules against carrying are found, then do not ask your manager about it. Concealed means concealed.
 
You won't get that job now. Concealed means concealed. Remember that next time.
 
I bet you could have worked there from now 'till doomsday with your Leatherman in plain view on your belt, and nobody would have said anything.

If you have to ask, the answer is always no.
 
Don't ask don't tell. Gun owners are in much the same position that gays were about 20 years ago. It is still considered fashionable to discriminate against us for reasons based in prejudice rather than logic. But we will overcome, much as they did.
 
As a rule of thumb, don't ever advertise to employers that you carry/want to carry. It's the surest way to NOT get a job. It's unfair, but when you ask, "what is your concealed handgun policy" the employer hears, "I am going to shoot up your workplace and the first bullet is going in your head". No, it's not accurate and all you want to do is have a means of defense.

Also, moreso than guns, NEVER ask about knives. Nobody generally cares if you have a utility knife on you, but people instantly think the shower scene from "Psycho".

Again, I know these aren't accurate, but that's what employers hear.
 
I carried at Kroger for years. Manager even patted me on the back one time and got a handful of Kel-Tec. Didn't even bat an eye, probably thought it was a cell phone or something. You should have just kept quiet, so long as it wasn't against the law.
 
And some other good advice that everyone always leaves out: make sure you build up an emergency savings fund that you can tap into if you're accidentally discovered and fired.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I don't think it counted me out because I never asked about an evil pocket knife, only a multi tool for working on my mountain bike. I realize he might have taken that wrong, but it did not seem so.
 
Jobs are easier to replace than lives.
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Yeah. I hear Kroger deli clerks are falling like flies defending the potato salad against hungry desperados. Doesn't matter. He won't get this job. Really good way to make an impression on your prospective employer. "Can I carry my gun? Well, can I, can I? Huh, can I?"
 
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Good advice all.

However, my experience differs. I live in a county in California that packing.org describes as de facto shall issue, but i have to prepare a statement of good cause (a requirement to be issued a permit in CA). I wrote that as part of my job, I work alone in the field with tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment with no means to protect myself, and I asked the President of my company to sign a letter attesting to the truth of this statement. His response: "I thought we still had a Second Ammendment. But sure, no problem, I'll sign it."

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Thanks 316. I explained my reason for asking my future employer, that being that I did NOT want to violate company policy. He was cool with that and thanked me for verifying. For those who replied so negatively assuming I am not going to get the job, I surely do NOT appreciate your negative criticism. I am currently awaiting clearance for a background check and I have to go back in around 1 week from yesterday for a drug swab. Anyways, I MIGHT NOT get it because there are only 2 positions open and a total of 9 people are applying. I do have previous food handling experience pulling in my favor. :neener:
 
I would not expect to get the job as this probably did not make a good impressoion. Seeing as how your under 21 I would not make it a cause for concern as your not able to carry yet. So now instead you made a bad impression on the manager because you asked if you could bring your gun along. What happens if you dont get the job? You planned to be there for awhile and now you may have jeapordized your chances. Well I guess if you do not get the job then you learned your lesson and if you do then you got a cool manager.
 
Ask them the logic of being able to pass a government background check to carry a weapon and a workplace background check to slice meat but you can't carry a weapon while you slice meat. :eek:
 
I worked for Fred Meyer (Kroger's other name) for five years. They don't really enforce knives as weapons apparently because every male employee at my store had either a short buck knife or some form of folder in plain view either on belt or pocket clip.

Shouldn't have asked, nobody would have noticed.
 
Yeah. I hear Kroger deli clerks are falling like flies defending the potato salad against hungry desperados.

Ok, that was really, really funny. I just choked on my beverage.
 
I worked third shift at a Kroger once.

Another third shift employee asked if she could carry OC spray after being robbed. She was point-blank told no.

I was once sexually assaulted. I didn't bother to ask permission, and I let the spray can hang visibly outside of my pocket.
 
If you put them in a position where they have to say "yes" or "no" it will almost always be "no", and they'll be watching for bulges from that moment on. Keep it to yourself. If you conceal properly the only time they'll find out you are carrying is if you needed it (which hopefully would never happen).
 
Will advise next week If I got the job or not. Remember, 9 other people are applying. Maybe one of them has a masters in meat slicing.
 
Beware

Anyways, I think I will carry my benchmade low rise, i.e. unclipped.
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In some states carrying a benchmade in that manner could be legally considered a concealed weapon. And if caught and convicted, kiss your gun owning days goodbye before they even get started.
 
i would think having some sort of knife on you would be fine in a grocery store. Years ago I worked in a couple of grocery stores and if I did not have a knife on me the store certainly had plenty of razor knives laying around for employee use. Besides you will be working in a deli, I cannot imagine there are not knives in a deli.

Live and learn, you are not old enough to carry now anyway, period. So why bring it up. Aside from age I do not think mentioning wanting to bring a gun to work is going to work in your favor when they make a decision about who to hire.

Next time you interview you will know better.
 
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