Mystery Llamas

[bigtime]

Hi all.
Im new here. I was referred by Tom from Gun-Talk.

My quandry is... I recently bought a pair of Llamas. A 380, and a 9mm Parabellum. I figured to get them, and then turn them quickly. But I cant find any info on them. Ive dug as far as I know how to dig, and I cant find them. They dont have a model name or number on the slide. They have a s/n on the trigger guard, but no way to identify the model and when it was made. Its almost like Llama didnt make them. I dont think they are military. They dont have the finger grip trigger guard and both sights are fixed. They both have grip safetys.
Like I said, Ive checked out a few Llama, and Star sights but I cant find these guns. Is there another place to look for a possible model name or number???
This is driving me kind of nuts.
Id appreciate any help or direction you can give me.
Thanks
BigTime

 

[Cocked & Locked]

click on this...
http://forum.m1911.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87

 

[lee n. field]

Whereabouts in No. Ill, BTW? Any place civilized?

 

[bigtime]

Im about 60 miles SW of Daleyville. Sandwich IL.

 

[fattsgalore]

Need pics.

 

[lee n. field]

m about 60 miles SW of Daleyville. Sandwich IL.

Yup, I do know where Sandwich is, vaguely. Somewhere between Rockford and Dekalb, IRRC. I might even be going there tomorrow, if the "boys" in the other shop can't figure out how to get their app to talk to a mail server.

Where'd ya get the Llamas?

 

[medmo]

Using an on line auction can help find info in this type of case. Try auctionarms.com or gunbroker.com. Put in Llama and the caliber and do a search. If you choose "closed auctions in last 90 days" you will get additional information then just guns currently for sale. By sorting thru the auction pictures you stand a good chance of finding the model you have with a description and an idea of what they are selling on the market.

 

[bigtime]

I never thought of that. Thanks, Ill give that a try.

 

[Sistema1927]

Does the Llama .380 look like a small 1911 and have a vent rib on it?

I had one in the 70's, it was an OK shooter but I never did figure out what model it was (back in the "BI" days "Before Internet").

 

[bigtime]

I think my 9mm is a model XI-B. But Im only about 75% on that. I still havent found out the 380.

 

[Mad Magyar]

In case your Llama is the XI-B, it replaced the XI "Especial" model with a design similar to the Colt 1911.
Here are some of the spec's:
Cal: 9mm
#of shots: 8
Length: 7.8"
Weight: 30 oz's
Height: 5 1/2 "
Sights: Adj. for Windage
Finish: Bright Blue or Chromed
BTW, if you can find the Letter Code located on or near the slide or trigger Guard, I can give you the mfgr date on the 9mm or your .380...(I need more info. on your .380)
E.g.: (Q1 = 1970)
Hope this helps...I've had a few Llamas.....

 

[Sistema1927]

I found this picture on an E-bay auction for a magazine ad for the Llama .380. No mention of a model number, but some info. in the ad.

 

[bigtime]

I was looking at them this morning. I found a 1.2 on the 9mm. And a 11.2 on the 380. The 380 might be double stamped on the 1.
The 380 has an X and the 9mm has a B infront of the s/n. Does that help.

Systema1927... Thats my 380 I think. It looks exactly like mine. I wish the ad told more. Bummer. The 9mm is a twin to it, only a full size.

 

[Walkalong]

I have a Llama .380. The cheap plastics grips are cracked and I broke the ejector. I had to make another one for it. I would sell it if it was worth anything. I would give it to a needy newbie who just wanted to shoot.

It's a model III-A, Blue, looks like the pic in the link above.