NAA mini 5 shot .22

[jsalcedo]

I bought this gun on a whim a couple of months ago as a possible backup
for my backup.

Finally got it out to the range yesterday. I was impressed with its workmanship and overall quality.

Loading is a bit of a pain and it takes extra attention to muzzle discipline when pulling out the cylinder pin and removing the cylinder.

I have large hands so pushing the little release button whle simultaneously
pulling foward on the pin takes some getting used to.

The gun also must be put at half cock to remove the cylinder.

Once I had the rounds loaded into the cylinder putting it back in is easy
except for the fact that sliding the pin back and getting the holes aligned
makes it easy to get your hand in front of the muzzle.

Since this revolver has a spur trigger I squeezed the grips with one hand while cocking the hammer with the other as to not be anywhere near the trigger while cocking the gun.

The sights consist of ligning up the cocked hammer with a vestigal front sight.

Squeezing the gun between my right thumb and index finger I used my left index finger to work the trigger.

The trigger was crisp and the little popgun fired hitting about six inches right
and 3 inches down from where I had the sights aligned.

The scary part was despite my death grip, the gun flipped in my grasp and was pointing directly right of me luckily at the railroad ties and not the
cops standing behind them.

I tried different grip methods finally finding one that sent the muzzle pointing straight up.

Groups were 15 inches at 7 yards but would probably be better if shot by
a three year old with the proper sized hands for the task.

I like the gun but I don't think it would make a good self defense weapon
unless it was at contact range. Who would want to do that?

I think its going into a shadowbox with a stuffed and mounted field mouse.

 

[mec]

Mine hit best at short range- I didn't shoot it at long range- when I set the base of the rear sight on top of the hammer. ONe time, shooting it one handed over the chronograph, it did a complete flip out of my hand. I was shooting with a guy last week who was hitting a silhouette very well at 50 feet and even put a couple of rounds in a 4" coffee can lid that distance.

Here/s something with some "ballistic data."
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_153_25/ai_75211984

 

[MICHAEL T]

I fired the Mag several years ago and every shot the pistol would turn in my hand and point stright up. My wife tried it and jumped out of her hand. I don't think I could hit a barn at 15ft. But they are cute

 

[GaryP]

I have the Black Widow Convertible and do not have this problem with either cylinder. Mine does have the first generation checkered rubber grips which help in this respect I'm sure! Mine did shoot off to the left out of the box, but it is a simple procedure to move the pressed in, fixed rear sight right or left. With practice one can keep it in the black out past 10 yards but it is not designed to give 1 inch groups at that range. On a good day and a fair amount of concentration I can attain 1.5 inch accuracy at 7 yards using a rest but not offhand! My wife and I have more fun with the Black Widow than with any other handgun we have. Cheap to shoot & easy to clean!
It does tend to blacken my forefinger when shooting 30 or more rounds at a session due to the forefinger being close to the cylinder gap! It is harmless and washes off with soap and water.

Be aware that in many states and municipalities it is ILLEGAL to carry a handgun that does not have a "TRIGGER GUARD!" The NAA Mini's, by design, lack this feature!

 

[telcom911]

never

experinced that with my mini- in .22 WSM. I can put all 5 in a paper plate from 15yds, never shot it farther then that. Lobe that little thing.

 

[BluesBear]

Do NOT stand in front of me.

At 20-25 feet I will put all 5 COM.

 

[Sir Aardvark]

I, Myself, quickly found that the smooth, little, wooden grips that come with the thing make it darn near impossible to hold onto while shooting .22 mags.

I have yet to do it, but I plan on purchasing the rubber, checkered grips eventually. Hopefully this will help, but until then, I'll only shoot .22 LR.

 

[sm]

I got pretty good with my NAA .22lr with 1 1/8" bbl. Started at 1 yard and worked out to about 5.

MY primary reason was for contact, last ditch , "I'm in a heap of trouble" distance. At the time , concerns of kidnapping were on my mind...so besides a primary and BUG, I had more than one of these. Amazing where these can be concealed. For instance If I were taken against my will , with one concealed as I did...if they allowed me to tinkle I could access through my fly. If frisked - not noticed. I was thinking outside the box, planning for the worst...hoping it never came to that...

 

[Magnum88C]

For those who own the black widow, how do they conceal (thinking of pocket, no holster)?

The regular minis I just can't hold onto and operate, my hands/fingers are just too big. I was thinking a black widow would make a good last-ditch backup-backup-gun.

 

[Onmilo]

I'm not sure it was legal, but I used an NAA .22 lr revolver to kill muskrats who didn't drown in the traps.
I would shoot them in the head at 10-15 feet away and the gun did the job quite well.
Maybe you have the tiny grip version or are using Stingers or some other hyper velocity round and that is causing the gun to roll back on the web of your hand.
I used plain old Winchester T-22 standard velocity shells in my gun and had no issues with controlling the piece.
I sold the gun when I stopped trapping and now wish I had kept it.

I know two Police Officers who carry NAA guns as absolute last ditch defense guns.
One carries his in a belt pouch and one carries his on a neck lanyard.
Both will use them if a subject is getting the best of them in a hand to hand contact situation and it looks like their life is on the line.
Both intend to screw the gun into the persons ear or shoot them in the eyes with the guns if it comes to that.
Both Officers have qualified to carry the guns, though I don't know exactly what the Department did to make a qualifying course for the guns.

 

[GEM]

For fun, I once shot the TX DPS CHL protocol with a 1 5/8" Barrel, bird's head grip. Max points is 250.

I think I shot 238 but I would have to dig up the correct number. You can hit things with. It's a bug or a snake shot gun when I'm out hunting.

I do remember than when I shot a CCI 22 Mag shot shell I thought that I HAD BLOWN UP. What a boom!

 

[scbair]

I own a few of the NAA minis. My evaluation:

The .22LR (mine has the 1-1/8" bbl) is the hardest of all to handle, due to its extremely small frame & grip area. Recoil is no problem, though.

The .22WMR (mine's a convertible, again with the 1-1/8" bbl) is MUCH easier to handle. Its larger handle offers just enough "reach" (re: hammer and trigger) to allow rapid and positive manipulation.

I regard the WMR "shorty" as the penultimate deep-concealment back-up. I regard the LR as a conversation piece.

The Black Widow, with the newer round-butt oversized rubber stocks, is my absolute favorite. It's somewhat shorter than my .38 J-frame snub; more importantly, it's significantly thinner, due to its miniscule cylinder diameter. I cobbled up a thin leather pocket holster, with a "lip" at the lower rear portion to ensure the holster stays in the pocket when the revolver is drawn. CAUTION: however you plan to pack one of these minis, be SURE the hammer stays engaged with the cylinder safety notch. The spurless trigger and high hammer spur combine for a potential hazard if sufficient thought isn't given to this consideration. I designed my pocket holster to cover both the spur trigger and the tip of the hammer spur. If I weren't so technologically neanderthal, I'd post a pic (it ain't pretty, but I have yet to fumble a practice draw, or to have any "issue" with safe carry.).

The BW is carried as a primary, only when "I 'm sure I won't need one." Honestly, it handles well, and is quite accurate at 15 yards, "stress"-type rapid work. The WMR is just a .22, but its velocity (1200 fps, plus or minus, with CCI +Vs) is adequate for decent penetration. I prefer the .38 with LSWCHPs, whenever feasible, but really have little faith in any handgun's "one-shot stop" capability.

 

[Paladin7]

Try the hard rubber checkered grips. They make all the difference in the world. I have pretty big hands and I can shoot my mini magnum 1 5/8" barrel surprisingly accurately at combat distances with CCI Maxi Mags +V's. The gun pops up in recoil but not as much as with the wood grips. Certainly not vertical.

These guns are really for close in personal defense. You are looking for a contact distance head shot or under 10 foot CNS shot. Use the 22 magnum, as the 22 lr may not penetrate. Personally I think, concealability, noise and blast with the 22 mag are all benefits given the parameters this weapon operates in.

 

[HighVelocity]

I have the one that folds into it's own little holster/big grip with a pocket clip on it. I haven't had any trouble holding onto it.
I can keep 5 shots in the orange at 7 feet on a standard target shooting as fast as I can cock the hammer. The NAA mini is a great little 22.

 

[kjaniak]

I have the .22 mag version with the fold-up grip. I would say at about 12-15 feet I can hold everything on a 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper, which isn't great but not too bad. To tell you the truth, I shoot it better if both eyes are open and I kind of point it. The fold-up grip really helps out with controling it and also covers the trigger when in the pocket.