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Bambidiots

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Posted: August 4, 2003
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Bambidiocy 1. [n] To accept the assertion of an individual, corporation or government agency as evidence of fact, when the said individual, corporation or government agency stands accused of lying or fraudulent activity. 2. [n] To believe that men will pay more for paintball than prostitutes.

If there's one thing you can count on, it's that across the political spectrum, the media will fall all over itself to cover anything involving naked women. Television producers loved the so-called "Hunting For Bambi" story because of the promise of eye candy. Liberals loved it because it made men with guns look like Neanderthals, and conservatives leaped at the chance to tut-tut predictably about the social decay of America.

Now, I like pretty naked women just as much as the next guy, I've met my share of scary hicks with guns and I am certainly of the opinion that America is not so much slouching towards Gomorrah as it is sprinting. However, the reason I never so much as mentioned the Bambi story that drew so much press interest of late is that I figured the only way it could have been more obviously a hoax is if the sponsor of the hunt had said "Baba Booey" or mentioned a certain radio star's genitalia while being interviewed.

I've marveled at the media's collective gullibility for years. I can still recall with pleasure the night when O.J. Simpson was trapped in his white Bronco, and Peter Jennings excitedly announced that ABC had an eyewitness to the breaking news on the phone. No sooner had the eyewitness announced "Oh my Lord, this is quite tenses" than my friends and I burst out laughing. The caller rambled on in an exaggerated black accent for a few minutes until Al Michaels finally informed Jennings that the call was a hoax. A decade later, all one of the gang has to do to crack everybody up is to say: "Ah see ... OJ!"

The Bambi story was a sham from the get-go, and an obvious one at that. I have a friend who went straight out of high school and directly to the pros, as Nelly would say, and worked the high end of the scale in Hollywood about eight years ago. According to her, top girls earned around $1,500 per night, which is pretty good compared to the $25 – $50 per session charged by an Amsterdam window hooker.

And yet, we were supposed to believe that men were paying up to $10,000 for the privilege of shooting a girl in the butt with a paint gun? Right, when for that kind of cash, a guy could fly in a top-flight European escort and keep her for a week. There's also the fact that the quasi-sapients to whom this sport would presumably appeal aren't generally known for having that kind of cash to blow on extracurricular activities.

I'm not saying that the media can't, or won't, get things wrong from time to time. Mistakes are inevitable, but stupid ones that only require less than five seconds of thought to avoid are not. But the Bambi debacle proves, once more, that a significant portion of the media is far more interested in covering stories that confirm their ignorant view of the world than in discovering the truth.

Many esteemed members of the media embarrassed themselves by thoughtlessly leaping in to opine on the matter, but bambidiocy in its purest form was demonstrated by the original KLAS-TV reporter, whose notion of fact-checking amounted to going back and asking the hoaxer if he was pulling her leg or not.

That's pretty funny. What is not so funny, though, is that this is standard operating procedure for how the mainstream media covers government. For example, when the federal income tax charade is covered, the usual procedure is for the reporter to mention a few of the many fraudulent actions that the IRS is perpetrating on the American people, then ask an IRS representative if the accusations are true. Shockingly, the IRS representative invariably says they are not, which, in the reporter's mind, is enough to settle the matter. Can you imagine if we depended on the news media for justice?


Eyewitness to Brutal Axe Attack: "It was him! He chopped their heads off!"

Reporter-Judge: "Sir, did you murder 17 people with an axe, as these 537 witnesses are accusing?"

Axe Murderer: "No. Their accusations are frivolous and without merit."

Reporter-Judge: "Well, that settles that. I find the accused not guilty."


And yet, these same bambidiots are your Fourth Estate watchdog, protecting your rights and liberties against government encroachment. Better buy a shotgun – I wouldn't count on the toothless old mutt.
 
And this guy offers not one shread of evidence that it IS a hoax other than some assumptions he makes.
#1 This was reported on one of our local news programs complete with video, and interviews with several people.
#2 I lived in Las Vegas for something like 15 years and still work there. There is nothing about this story that I find far fetched in the least. The idea that someone would want to do this doesn't surprise me at all, and the fact that someone would pay that kind of money to do that doesn't suprise me at all. I initally watched the new broadcast of this story at a fire station with seven people sitting in the room, all of which live in or around Las Vegas. Not one person even raised an eye brow about this story. No one even thought it worthy of comment. In fact, I was surprised when people started talking about this being a hoax on-line because frankly the idea that this wasn't for real, never entered my mind for a second. The only reason anyone would get excited enough about this story to post it on the internet, or argue it's authenticity is because they don't live in Las Vegas. We see and hear about stuff like this al the time and don't think twice about it.
#3 In the town I live in, there are two licenced brothels. I occasionally talk to the employees. It is not unusual for men to come to their business and spend many, many thousands of dollars. For example I have heard of guys spending $40,000 in these businesses. So paintball isn't more expensive, nessessarily.
#4 Comparing the cost of a trip to the brothel and doing this paint ball means nothing. You might compare the cost of this paintball thing to what you spent at the grocery store. They have nothing in common. You may be able to spend less at a brothel, but then you wouldn't be shooting anyone with a paintball gun.


I had a discussion via PM with another board member about this same story and asked him; if I don't believe the first person that told me this story, why should I believe someone else that I don't know who tells me that it is a hoax. In this case, if I decide I can't believe KLAS, then why SHOULD I beleive this clown ? What makes the author of this article an authority ? Why should I believe he has more insight into the story than KLAS ?

I have seen a number of threads on this subject shut down by the moderators although I really don't know why. If we had a thread about shoting each other with paintball guns or simunitions, and called it training, then it would be OK. But somehow this is sick and outrageous (sp)
 
I would be more inclined to believe that story, but not nessessarily. We had a similar episode here involving the underground DVD called Bumfights. When the law came down on them about it, they immediately said it was all a hoax etc. And it came out in the paper and on TV that it was all a hoax. But, the courts didn't agree and the witnesses and the people who were filmed also didn't agree. In other words, I don't believe a whole lot on the "news" as being fact. That is the point. I am not saying this whole thing is real or not real. What I am challenging is the idea that I should believe some guy I never heard of just because he says something is true or untrue.

I don't think I am saying this clearly. What started this whole thing with me is the website SNOPES. I often see them quoted as saying something is a hoax. It is stated like that is an indisputeable fact; if they say it, is has to be true and that is the final word on the subject. And what I am saying is, why should I believe them anymore than the guy that told the story in the first place ? Why should I believe the guy that wrote this article for Worldnet daily ?

I don't know if this paintball story is true or not. But that isn't the point for me. The point is, who can you believe ? Maybe I am paranoid, but I have seen so many times, stories on the news, retractions, whatever that later I found out for a fact wern't true that now I rarely believe anything I read is the complete truth.

Again, who knows the truth. What anyone of these people reported may or may not be the truth. But, I don't trust the news, snopes, or Worldnet Daily to know or report the truth.
 
the owner of www.Huntingforbambi.com was on the Stern Show last week

the whole premise was to sell copies of the video

they have now sold thousands

When i first saw the site, i emailed my paintball team that someone had obviously set the hook deep into an eager "Investigative Reporter".
 
"When i first saw the site, i emailed my paintball team that someone had obviously set the hook deep into an eager "Investigative Reporter". "

See, your inital reaction to the story was the exact opposite of mine. I didn't really think anything of the story because something like this happening in Las Vegas would be SOP.

So we have an "investigative reporter" who tells us one story. Then we have someone else tell us another story.......................

To me, the news and puplic figures in general have lost all credibility. What has this got to do with guns ? When I first started punching into this was on the gun issue. I saw gun owners being portrayed by the media one way, yet the gun owners I knew were nothing like that at all. A little deeper thought into the subject left me wondering if I could believe anything the "news" media told me. As time marched on, I realized that the answer was no, Far too often I have had personal knowlege of something and later saw it on the news as something totally different. BUT, by the same token, just because some website, a mayor, or who ever says something different, I discovered I can't nessessarily believe them either. Why should I ? They both told me two different things with nothing to back up either one.
I think we are often too eager to believe what we want to believe. In your case you thought it was a hoax from the beginning, I on the other hand believed it.
If I met two guys, that I had never seen before, Joe and John; and Joe told me a story that John said was BS, why should I believe one over the other ?
 
How much of a stretch would one have to make to think that it would it be possible for someone in Las Vegas (Sin City, mind you) to come up with the idea that shooting naked women with paintball guns would be a potential source of revenue?... :scrutiny:

Hoax or not: the fact that someone came up with the idea is pretty sickening...:barf:
 
It isn't a stretch at all. That is why I immediatly believed it without question.
How much of a strech is it to believe that the guy that started the whole thing would say it is a hoax to avoid getting in trouble over it ?
How much of a stretch is it to believe that when a city gets bad press, the mayor comes out and says it is a hoax ? Especially a city whose economy is based on tourism and a city that is trying to capture more market share of the entertainment/vacation market ? Las Vegas pretty much has a lock on the market segment that wants to come here to party, to gamble, to drink, to go to strip clubs, to take the short ride to the legal brothels. What they want now is the more family oriented segment.. The people who don't have a moral issue with gambling, but the rest of it is shady to them. We dont' want to have bad press keeping those people away.
How much of a stretch is it to believe a mayor that made his name and his fortune as an attorney for the mob ?
 
I don't think I am saying this clearly. What started this whole thing with me is the website SNOPES. I often see them quoted as saying something is a hoax. It is stated like that is an indisputeable fact; if they say it, is has to be true and that is the final word on the subject.

Yeah, Snopes bothers me, too. I don't trust their judgement at all.

But 444, look at what you're saying here:



I don't believe a whole lot on the "news" as being fact. That is the point.


It isn't a stretch at all. That is why I immediatly believed it without question.

If fit your world view, so you "immediatly believed it without question. "



That's a mistake. I think it's one we all make. But it's still a mistake.


(It's Snope's modus operandi!)
 
Right, I see the problem with that statement. But, something like this is so typical around here that it was no big deal. In fact, I still couldn't say if I believe it or not. This is a town that has a topless barbershop (named, A Little Off the Top), what is so hard to believe that someone is running a business that involves shooting naked women with paintballs ? As I mentioned we have had similar things happen that played out exactly the same way in the past.
 
I thought it was a great idea...

From a marketing point of view.

Just think of how much an infomercial would've cost - they got FREE advertising NATIONWIDE. Plus, with the premise of this being 'found out' by an investigative reporter, the sheeple bought it hook, line and sinker.

I saw the 'investigation' while flicking channels, and knew it was a fake when none of the women mentioned the pain and welting from being shot by paintballs. I spent no more than 30 secs watching.

I was somewhat shocked it made such a big wave until I realized how serious most people take what they see on tv.

Gotta give 'em credit - they are richer than all of us now.
 
I think that what startled many of the folks here, and other places, was the whole "shootin' at 'em with paintball guns." I mean, that HURTS!

Now, do you think it woulda made the news if they'd been stalking 'em with cream pies?
 
Yeah, it hurts, but how many people put themselves in the position to get shot with a paintball for fun?
How much would you complain about it if you got $1000 for doing the same thing ?
What about getting $2500 if you don't get shot ?

Shortly after this story was released, the company was being investigated for a number of alleged offenses with both the Federal and local law enforcement agencies. Charges ranged from trespass on federal land, to operating a front for an escort service.
Nah, really officers, it was all a hoax. We didn't do it at all, let alone on BLM land. Really.
 
The writer's error is to assume that all men just want what is
commonly called normal sex from women. For some men it's about
control or aggression, not sex per se. This one may have been
a hoax but it doesn't mean that there aren't men who won't pay
for the privilege of hurting women. Take this impulse to the max
and you have the phenomenon, rare but real, of snuff films. There's
a lot strange and awful stuff out there.
 
the media will fall all over itself to cover anything involving naked women

Why, 2Dogs, I have a tendency to fall all over naked women myself. At least, when the opportunity presents itself.

That being said, the entire affair smelled somewhat "marine-ly" from the outset. I am glad that it is over, but it does seem that the story received a tad more coverage than was warranted.

It all seems somewhat stupid, doesn't it??
 
I have to agree with 444 on this one. After living in Nevada for a year and meeting several former/current residents of Vegas anything could happen in that town and it wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after watching people bet my yearly salary on one hand of baccarat.

Is it a hoax? Possibly. But there are enough people with truckloads of money that visit Vegas that have strange tastes and are willing to pay to have them quenched.

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I, too, agree with 444 on this one

I don't believe anything anyone tells me anymore, unless I find it on the Internet.

What's that? You say it isn't necessarily true just because someone I've never heard of said it on the Internet?!! :uhoh:

I just don't know how we can function as a society with so much false (or sometimes true) information floating around, and so many clowns so ready to believe (or disbelieve) all of it.

As for this one story, I DO believe that you can buy ANYTHING in Las Vegas. Lives, politicians, virtue, you name it, it is for sale.
 
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