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Nestle Nagin said:
"Today is a day when New Orleanians are stepping up. We've had enough," Nagin said. "This is our line in the sand. We're saying we're not going any further."
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Hey Mayor two questions:

One -- If New Orleanians are stepping up, why do you need the National Guard?

Two -- How's that second term going so far?
 
The proportion of missing NOPD personnel seems trivial compared to that of missing New Orleans residents. If the city has half of it's pre-flood population, and over three-quarters of it's pre-flood police officers, how in heck is this being blamed on a shrunken law-enforcement agency? Are that many cops patrolling the wreckage as opposed to inhabited areas?
The recent incidents used ad nauseam to illustrate this need for SOMETHING TO BE DONE would likely have happened if there were TWICE the number of Big Easy minions of law enforcement. No place has enough police to physically monitor every corner and alley simultaneously. I think the mayor wants to blur the fact that a lot of his fine upstanding knuckleheads are simply back home, doing what they do best.
 
Pork Fat:

The proportion of missing NOPD personnel seems trivial compared to that of missing New Orleans residents. If the city has half of it's pre-flood population, and over three-quarters of it's pre-flood police officers, how in heck is this being blamed on a shrunken law-enforcement agency? Are that many cops patrolling the wreckage as opposed to inhabited areas?
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Maybe the cops who haven't come back are the few who actually did something. The good guys found a better gig elsewhere. The ones who came back just returned to the trough.
 
personally, id rather have New Orleans call in their own State's National Guard and State Police, instead of requesting civilian law enforcement from neighboring states to help.

Texas has its own problems. surely we don't need to bring TX law enforcement officers (or Arkansas, Mississippi, etc) them back to New Orleans again to quell the problems there.

Texas was the state that took the most refugees in from Louisiana. there is nothing wrong with helping displaced people, however, as evidenced in Houston and Dallas, they brought alot of their social problems with them. gangs, violent crimes, etc. did not disappear when they came to Texas. so not only are we dealing with an influx of people (which we must accomodate with shelter, food, jobs, schools, and other social services), but now it looks like there may, in the future, be a request for additional help?

wow...and we're back in hurricane season again. i sure hope we don't see another hurricane hit.
 
I heard on New Orleans radio this morning.

It was alleged that two of the teenage shooting victims were involved in a drive-by shooting a couple of evenings before their demise. (I use the term alleged because I don't have a link reference to give you good people here on THR for what I heard on the radio).

They also discussed how the National Guard might be able to put the brakes on the continued looting.

I didn't know that looting was an ongoing problem, but apparently it is.
 
N.O. Radio

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>I heard on New Orleans radio this morning.
It was alleged that two of the teenage shooting victims were involved in a drive-by shooting a couple of evenings before their demise.<
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Ah! Dogs and fleas...

Booyah!:rolleyes:
 
If Ray Nagen's chocolate city folks were participating in the rebuilding of NO instead of allowing illegals to do so, the gangsta folks would be too busy to steal, do holdups, etc. They need to get of their rear ends and rebuild "their" city. Ray is good at "the sky is falling" yapping, blaming others for his weak and misguided management. The NO folks elected him, go for it Ray. Fix your city, no just the leeves.:)
 
You know, I just can't get over the fact that the previous Police Chief in NO went and resigned near the height of the disater. The water was still flooding the streets, people still stuck on rooftops and the head cop decides THIS is a good time to seek other employment?
That has always struck me as "odd". Likely more to the NO saga than we know.:barf:
 
You know, I just can't get over the fact that the previous Police Chief in NO went and resigned near the height of the disater. The water was still flooding the streets, people still stuck on rooftops and the head cop decides THIS is a good time to seek other employment?
That has always struck me as "odd". Likely more to the NO saga than we know.
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You think it might be even more odd that he announced his resignation just two days after Judge Jay Zaney approved the temporary restraining order concerning firearms seizures? Not just two days later, but on a Sunday, when Hurricane Rita was in full effect.
 
"What Happened To The Gangs of New Orleans?"

"Before Katrina, New Orleans had a murder rate 10 times worse than the U.S. average. The killers evacuated too. Tracing the criminal exodus."

http://www.time.com/time/archive/pre...194016,00.html
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From the article:

For example, last month, under threat of a lawsuit by the National Rifle Association, police began redistributing guns that had been confiscated as an emergency measure after Katrina. So far, 47 out of a stockpile of 942 have been returned. FEMA assistance is expected to drop in the next several months, which could also incite crime.
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:fire:
 
Notice how the couple of anti-gun parts of the article lend nothing to the rest of the basis article. They are just thrown in for good measure to please the editors of Time. Take it with a grain of salt because it is all but expected.

Aside from those, the article has good insight into the true reasons crime is so bad in NO and why Houston was more effective in handling it when it moved there.
 
From the same Time article:

But when police interviewed the suspects, they suddenly understood why New Orleans was so violent. No matter what police said, they couldn't get the suspects to talk. They had no leverage because no one took their threats seriously. It was a logical response: in New Orleans, 93% of people arrested from 2003 to 2004 never went to prison. "It was a real eye-opening experience," says Sergeant Harris. "People born and raised in Houston seem to have an understanding of consequences, of punishment. You can show them the options, and they start thinking, Wow, maybe I should start cooperating." With New Orleans evacuees, Sergeant Harris says, "there is no baseline. They have no concept of consequence."

It was the first time the Houston police had heard the phrase "60-day homicide." Suspects would say, "This ain't nothing but a 60-day homicide," meaning that if they kept quiet for 60 days, they would walk--just as they had too often in New Orleans. So Houston police started letting evacuees spend a few days in jail before questioning them in depth. While they waited, the suspects talked with other inmates and had court appearances--which did not end with release. Eventually, for some, the reality of Texas law began to sink in. "As they stay here more, they seem to talk more," Sergeant Harris says.
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let that sink in folks... a "60-day homicide".
 
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