Native Americans Dream to Elk hunt?

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I'm a Californian, born and raised. I grew up on the Round Valley Indian Reservation--Two hours North of the Bay Area. Since joining THR December 25, 2014, I've posted eight times and have been corrected every time for my rhetoric; therefore I promise to post as accurate information that my knowledge will allow me to.

So I want to hunt elk. We don't have elk on my Reservation (A Reservation is a section of land in which Native Americans were forced onto) and my brother, best-friend, and I have decied we want to hunt elk.

That being said where do I begin? What State, County? Hunting Zone? Would you go for? Im a California resident so Ill need non resident tags. Money is a factor--But I wanna set a date--Make it a logical doable hunt that doest cost more that my used jeep!

I have looked at the California Fish and Game website and became confused.

Please Help.............:confused:
 
I posted this on your gun question a little while ago. Idaho is still first come first serve for elk tags for nonresidents (and residents) as far as I know. Used to start in December for nonresidents. Quotas for about all the units. There are some draw tag units for everyone. It's expensive for nonresidents. Go to the
Idaho Deptment of Fish and Game website and read the regulations. Then call them if you have questions. Robert posted this on the other thread about Colorado having over the counter tags. Go to their website and read the regulations and if you have questions call them. I see people from California that come up and hunt elk about every year. So there are two states.

That being said where do I begin? What State, County? Hunting Zone? Would you go for? Im a California resident so Ill need non resident tags. Money is a factor--But I wanna set a date--Make it a logical doable hunt that doest cost more that my used jeep!
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These are things that "YOU" have to do.



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You should also check with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Some reservations and their residents are covered by a different set of rules, sorta like land-owner rules.
 
Yes, i'd check with Reservations in AZ, NM, CO, UT, WY, ID, MT and I'm sure I missed some and see if they allow members of other tribes to hunt.
I doubt you'll get bull tags but I bet there are reasonable tags for cows and cull hunting.
 
I recently read where Wyo. area near Casper had to issue over the counter tags to get enough elk killed to stabilize the population. I guess they have a max population they try to stay under so they don't have to feed them in the winter.
 
I will check with my brother in New Mexico, and see what it's like there for non-residents. There are a lot of Native Americans in that state and perhaps there are different rules for you than for Anglos?

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Here`s a thought. Settle in on a specific area. Stop shot gunning all over the place .

If your confused with your states rules ,which are the ...facts, Opinions will only add to the confusion.

If you go out of state, non resident rules are way different than they are for residents.

Get on the internet. Information is there. Do your own home work, you learn more.
 
Sounds to me like being "Native American" has nothing to do with this case.

Unless there are reservation reciprocity issues - which would be internal to you and your reservation - you're just a Californian looking for an affordable Elk hunt.

Check your Res bureaucracy for insider hunting issues on other Reses.

Then, seek culling situations as hinted at above.

Then, look at individual states tag draw success relative to applications - nearly all, if not all states publish this data somewhere. Often times market principals will follow this data. Supply/demand.

Then, be sure to factor in the additional expenses of lodging, travel, local processing (if used), etc...

I found that one of the cheapest hunts that I ever scheduled ended up costing significantly more than several of the disregarded higher up front cost hunts optioned. Lots of unforeseen costs involved.
 
I live in New Mexico and most Reservations have ELK. However, Native American or not it will cost $$$$, blessed be the holy dollar, family comes later. Get a paper copy of the Calif. regs and sit down with a few friends and determine if you have over the counter tags, if not see what the draw process is. One or all of you put in for the draw. 2nd, see what adjoining states have over the counter tags for non residents. Colorado has over the counter tags last I knew, by the way, do you have a HUNTER SAFETY certificate. Most states require them for rifle hunts. Keep in mind the farther you go from the house the more it is going to cost. I'll do a bit more searching and see if I can come up with some better info.
 
Just looked at 2014 Idaho regulations. Still first come first serve for nonresident elk for most units until the quota is filled (there are units that are draw tags only)(a few years back they were having trouble selling them out after the last price increase. Don't know how it is now). Go on sale Dec.1 for the following year for nonresidents. Nonresident license 154.75 . Nonresident elk tag 416.75 . Guess if you can't afford that, the question to buy a new rifle is answered for you. And if you still can't, you and your brother can talk over hunting in alternate years and split the cost between you. The one that can't hunt can still scout game and help pack it out as long as he's not carrying any weapons. The good old USA may not be exactly a free country anymore according to some, but the last time I looked you can still move to a state where there are more hunting opportunities. And the resident license and tags are a whole lot less. OYE
 
Drawing an elk tag in California is darn near impossible. Colorado still has tons of over the counter units. New Mexico is all draw only but you can buy landowner permits. The Game and Fish will send you a list of land owners who have permits for sale if you call them.

I've never hunted Idaho so I couldn't tell you whats the haps there. Montana has some very good elk hunting as well with some easy draws.
 
I too am a Native American....registered Cherokee. All of the tribes are there own entity and each have their own treaties with the US government. Here in OK, the Cherokees have a treaty and the state doesn't honor it. We are supposed to have free hunting and fishing within the Cherokee territory. Which we define as several counties in the NE OK. However, the state defines this as a reservation land. So there is a conflict. The Cherokee nation will defend you if you need it. But alas....I just went ahead and bought my lifetime fishing and hunting license.....I didn't want to try and argue with a game warden.
 
Even after I pretty much quit being an active hunter, I've continued to buy the "omnibus" hunting/fishing license in Texas. It's one of the few ways to put money directly into wildlife enhancement.

Remember that the federal excise taxes on firearms are distributed back to each state's wildlife agency as a function of total licenses sold.
 
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