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NBC Airs Murderer's Message - Why?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Colt, Apr 19, 2007.

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  1. Colt

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    Why air the message of this murderer? What's the point?

    - The victims don't give a damn about what this nut has to say, and airing the footage is slap in the face.
    - It gives the murderer what he had hoped to "earn" by killing all the victims - to have his screwed-up message heard.
    - Other potential copy-cat murderers will learn how they, too, can "be heard."

    Aside from greed, I can't think of why any network would air this tripe.

    What am I missing?
     
  2. Twitch

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    Probably because it means high ratings for NBC. The more shocking a news story, the better. It doesn't matter if more people are hurt in the process.
     
  3. ingram

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    Well, they withheld the Columbine Basement tapes, Eric + Dylan's version of getting their message to the world, and still are to this day despite many calls even from victim's families for their release.... so I don't think you can say that whether or not these tapes come out determines whether or not someone like Cho will go on a rampage. If anything, it just told Cho that he should send his materials to the press instead of leaving them in his room. These killers with get the notoriety they want regardless... not releasing a few materials isn't going to curb copycat incidents. Now if you can get everybody in the whole world to turn their heads, and no media organizations to report on killings, then you will have an effective way of eliminating the glory factor that drives these killers. That obviously is something not feasible.

    Understanding can only be achieved when the truth comes out, and that means everyone's side of the story, including Cho's. I'm not a victim, and neither are you, so it is pretty pretentious to assume that the people most effected by this don't want to hear what drove Cho to do this.

    And yes, it is the job of news agencies to report the news. I don't think it was in bad taste for them to only show portions of what they recieved, but once gut reactions and high emotions from the massacre have cooled off a bit, it is my hope that the whole thing will be released. It is important for public closure and understanding.

    There is still much confusion as to Eric and Dylan's motives in Columbine, with myths such as bullying being the biggest factor still being a widely held belief. Deep research into what has been released about Eric and Dylan shows that a large motive was a disgust for the erosion of human's survival instincts, ironically, something that has been balked about here concerning the victims of VT. There was also anger derived from feeling excluded, not bullied, but left out of "so many fun things," as Eric put it. Things like music, television, whatever, become scapegoats when what we really need to do is listen to what they have to say for themselves. Only from this can we interpret what really caused them to lash out. All the evidence needs to be presented, otherwise we can't draw any substantial conclusions as to what went wrong, and what really can be done to prevent similar occurances.

    Now I don't necessarily agree with the manner they are releasing this, it would make sense to wait a while before presenting this information, because when people's emotions are running high they do not think rationally.
     
  4. Colt

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    I've already heard two interviews (one fellow student, and one family member) of those who knew the victims who are livid that NBC has seen fit to give this scum a national stage. The interviews were on the local Philly a.m. talk shows. (1060 and 1210)
     
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    NBC wishes to inspire copycats.

    The media knows that they are encouraging copycats and needs to aid other murderers to obtain the gun control that they want.
     
  6. ACP

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    Because it's newsworthy.

    And El Tejon, I hope you don't seriously believe that. That's truly tinfoil hat territory.
     
  7. ingram

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    Those who are most closely effected by this tragedy are not the ones who should be making the decisions as to what is proper right now. The very fact that they are so close to this, blinded by emotions, compromises their judgement when it comes to making a rational argument. There is no evidence to suggest that not airing his tapes will prevent similar incidents, and looking at it with some perspective, is quite ludicrous considering the attention they recieve regardless.

    What they may feel is good for themselves is not equitable to what is good for the nation or grounded in common sense.

    Also, you hear two interviews and that suddenly becomes the opinion for all the victims? Still pretentious.
     
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    ACP, do you remember Patrick Purdy? Do you remember the TIME magazine article and how they detailed the shooting in hope of encouraging copycats.

    Do you remember the Louisville shooting where the murderer was found with the TIME magazine article describing Purdy's attack?

    Did you see Cho's video? Did you hear the references to Columbine?

    No tinfoil, just fact.
     
  9. Colt

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    I hear 2 live interviews less than 12 hours after the tapes are released, and I'm "pretentious" to believe those related to the victims are not happy that the materials were aired? :rolleyes:

    But you're right, who cares about the victims? Why should we show them any consideration? They're too emotionally involved to know what's right, so NBC executives should make the decisions.

    What's most important now is that Mr. Nutso gets his message aired all across the nation. That's why he commited this crime, so let's go ahead and give him what he wanted.
     
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    NBC and the rest of the lot are ratings whores.

    I'm a strong believer in the First Amendment but I'm not sure what use airing all this crap was.

    Cho got what he wanted - notoriety.

    He should be allowed to fade into obscurity.
     
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    Well I'm done trying to argue my point. If you presume the power to know what drove someone you have never met to kill 32 people, then you are quite impermeable to rational argument.

    Let the media bashing and conspiracy theories continue, as I am bowing out.
     
  12. Colt

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    Exactly, .30 cal. What was the point?

    To me, airing this somewhat parallels shouting "fire" in a theater. The public risk here is copycats. NBC doesn't have a "right" or "obligation" to do that.
     
  13. Colt

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    He killed 32 people to get attention and be heard. This isn't some wild pet theory of mine. You don't need to "presume" any power to know this.

    If he thought he could be heard without killing anyone, why not just send his package to NBC and call it a day? By airing his whacko materials, NBC is validating his voilent tactics to would-be copycats.

    I submit that when you kill 32 innocent people, you forfeit your first amendment rights.
     
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    If it bleeds, it leads - old news media maxim.

    See the movie "15 Minutes" if you want to see the prototype for this sort of c.r.a.p.

    Whoever said they were ratings wh--es, was not wrong.
     
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    To me, this is like blaming guns for gun crimes. It's always the INDIVIDUAL'S responsibility for their actions. It's not the media's, it's not video games, etc. This is newsworthy.
     
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    whatever dramatic crap the media says about the sadness of this crime.....they love it. They glorify it.....and they know it. Good job guys......the young are watching too....good job.
     
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    And if the agrieved kids announced on a radio show they wished that the government would take away all the guns would you then be so quick to adhere to their wishes?

    ingram is right. This is news. sensationalistic? yes. but news nonetheless
     
  18. Deanimator

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    Pure unalloyed greed.

    I wouldn't be surprised if one of the networks hired actors to put on Cho's "plays" and broadcast them.

    They're giving him EVERYTHING he wanted, namely unlimited attention.

    That'll sure deter others from doing the same thing... :rolleyes:
     
  19. Tokugawa

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    They should have tossed the creeps manifesto on the fire., refused to identify him by name, and bury him in unknown grave. Erase him.
     
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    On ABC's Good Morning America this am, Robyn Roberts interviewed a psychologist, psychiatrist or some such (whose name I do not remember). He said as much. DO NOT show the video because it offers the POS the aggrandizement and attention he wanted. This is the exact same type of stuff that the suide bombers in the mid east are doing and for the same reason. He also said the video was not 'him' as in real life he was a loner, a loser and a nobody. Do not let your kids see it. Do not remember his name. Let him rot forever in oblivion! I liked what he said. The video also is fodder for the copycats. Leave it alone!

    Ms. Roberts also commented on the fact that we should quit blaming anybody and everybody EXCEPT the POS shooter! I agree with that too!
     
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    Sorry. I would be mad as hell if they didn't show it. Everybody wants to know what was going on in this guy's head. This helps. It is certainly more "hard" news than a lot of the crappy commentary and speculation that was bandied about before.

    K
     
  22. Colt

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    Nice argument. Yes, of course, I would agree that everyone should be disarmed at the victim's request. Nice comparison.:rolleyes:

    What you're defending here, just so you know, is a murderer's "right" to have his propoganda aired on national TV, after murdering 32 people. I think the victim's families should have been shown better consideration.

    Will you still support airing murderer's manifestos if is there is a copycat incident next week?
     
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    The media HAD been doing better about stuff like this. Spree killers after Columbine have gotten less personal press. I don't know the name and/or face of the guy who killed the kids in the Amish school, for instance. Or that guy in Atlanta who killed people in their offices. It felt like the media had finally realized that these types of killings were driven, at least in part, by a desperate desire to "be somebody" and gain some attention.

    This story is just so big that it seems to have made them forget this. I especially didn't like all the photos of him posing with the guns. How many borderline teens are going to be copying those for their desktop pictures?

    Gregg
     
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    Sure, we'll learn a lot that way. You're letting emotion get in the way of logic.

    K
     
  25. WayneConrad

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    It's tasteless vulturism. Gotta make a buck before the body's cold.

    Tragic? Yes. Thought provoking? It ought to be. But an event deserving of non-stop "coverage" day after day? No.

    Way to go, media. Let's make sure that people with "a message" know how to get the best press that murder can buy.
     
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