NC sherrif's office: "System down"

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I went to get a mandatory handgun purchase permit. Filled out the paperwork, copied my DL. Heard them (not the sheriff) reviewing other applicants: "Oh he's not getting a permit" "he's not getting one oh no, no, no" ect.:rolleyes: Told it would be 2 hours.:confused: came back after 2 hours and I was told the system is down and to check back Monday.:mad: Really? A week? Com'on. Anyone else in NC have problems?

Just one more reason why this idiotic process shouldn't exist at all.:fire:
 
It's frustrating, but you're dealing with computers - it happens.
as for the "oh he's not getting a permit..." who knows.
 
If you have a concealed carry permit you do not need one. I can say though that in Guilford Co. I always had at least a 3 day wait. Sounds like whatever county you are in the sheriff likes to make his own rules.
 
A computer system, run and maintained by civil servants with no revenue attached and you expect them to care or be bothered to fix it on the run up to Thanksgiving.........
 
A computer system, run and maintained by civil servants with no revenue attached and you expect them to care or be bothered to fix it on the run up to Thanksgiving.........
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My revenue is attached to my systems, and even i'm not bending over backwards on the runup to thanksgiving. :D
 
Sounds like whatever county you are in the sheriff likes to make his own rules.
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To someone not raised in North Carolina, the sheriffs here have a bewildering amount of power. When we go a new sheriff, he completely changed the pistol buying permit process. For the better - but it's odd that each sheriff seems to be able to make up the rules for his/her county without much oversight.

Mike
 
To someone not raised in North Carolina, the sheriffs here have a bewildering amount of power. When we go a new sheriff, he completely changed the pistol buying permit process. For the better - but it's odd that each sheriff seems to be able to make up the rules for his/her county without much oversight.

Mike
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I don't think it's that odd. I think it just follows the school of thought that government oversight should happen on a local level, rather than from a top-down ivory tower somewhere.
Not a bad way of doing things, but it can cause some frustration here and there.

It also gives you much more "hands on" control over government that effects you day in and day out. If everything's coming from a centralized top-down location, you could have ridiculous laws that are designed solely for the more densely populated areas - that put everybody else in a bind. Look at New York State for example. Most of the gun control laws there are designed around NYC's problems. NYC is one tiny tiny tiny little corner of a rather large state though. Everybody else has to pay the price, because the state comes down everywhere.
If NY were run more like NC (or what you're describing in NC) - then you might have a situation where NYC has very strict laws, but going upstate to a more rural area - that's not the case.
I would think that's the preferred way of doing things?
 
The problem is when you get a sheriff that decides, "No one's buying guns this weekend" and takes the system offline on purpose.
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That's a big assumption to make. Holiday weekend, lot of people probably took off early or whatever, it happens.
 
No assumptions made. I merely stated how a crooked sheriff with a liberal agenda could make it very hard to get guns in his county.
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or maybe the damn systems down?

why does everything have to be "an agenda by the leftists!!!" or "they're out to get us!!!" "run run hide, the sky is falling!!!"

why can't something ever just happen, and it is what it is. Seriously - are we THAT freakin paranoid?
 
I never said there WAS an agenda. You're the one reading too much into it. The intent was to show how, with the sheriffs wielding that kind of power, a person with an agenda could easily abuse it to deprive you of your 2nd Amendment rights.
 
The intent was to show how, with the sheriffs wielding that kind of power, a person with an agenda could easily abuse it to deprive you of your 2nd Amendment rights.
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for what?\
why?
so we can be big bad "gunnies" and talk about the crazy leftists and how they want to take our guns (!!!!!!)
I mean, really - what purpose did even going into that have? What did that even add to the conversation?
I'm not trying to single you out here - but it seems like every single thread on here, at some point or another - deteriorates to some level of "those damn anti-gun liberals!"

The system's down - what the hell does that have to do with any possible conspiracy theory that might some day in some situation happen according to you? What does this have to do with the OP's current situation at hand?
 
Sinixstar,

You should probably take a break for a while. Feels like the room got 10 degrees warmer just by reading your posts.

You are kind of making yourself sound just as crazy as those you are accusing of being paranoid.
 
Sinixstar,

You should probably take a break for a while. Feels like the room got 10 degrees warmer just by reading your posts.

You are kind of making yourself sound just as crazy as those you are accusing of being paranoid.
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ya know. You're right. I'm crazy.
For once - i'd like to have a halfway normal conversation that doesn't deteriorate to chest beating stupidity.

Clearly i'm off my rocker :rolleyes:
 
I thought that system was in place to keep blacks from buying guns.
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That was the original purpose, yes. It dates from the Jim Crow era, and the sheriff is allowed to deny you if he decides you are not of "good moral character."

"Good moral character," of course, means whatever he decides it means; there is no statuatory definition. In 1955, I'm sure that often meant "born with the wrong skin color to own a handgun," especially if the sheriff didn't like your politics.

In the here and now, our local sheriff arbitrarily decided some years ago that you have to be an NC resident six months or a year (don't recall which) before he'll let you purchase a handgun, regardless of how clean your record is or how many you already own. I know because when I went to apply for my NC CHL, the office worker at first thought I was applying for a purchase permit and told me sorry, you haven't been an NC resident long enough (I had only been back in NC three months or so).
 
In the here and now, our local sheriff arbitrarily decided some years ago that you have to be an NC resident six months or a year (don't recall which) before he'll let you purchase a handgun, regardless of how clean your record is or how many you already own. I know because when I went to apply for my NC CHL, the office worker at first thought I was applying for a purchase permit and told me sorry, you haven't been an NC resident long enough (I had only been back in NC three months or so).
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This has more to do with trafficking and straw sale type stuff.
In NY some years ago for example - there was a ring that was busted up where they had people going to shops in PA and GA, buying up whatever they could, and driving back to Staten Island and selling 'em on the street at 3x the cost.

If you have to set up legal residence, it makes something like that at least marginally more difficult to do.
 
but it seems like every single thread on here, at some point or another - deteriorates to some level of "those damn anti-gun liberals!"
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I see that you joined this site on the 3rd. Just one day before the election. I would venture that most of the "liberal hate" you are experiencing here probably already existed but was not nearly as prevelant as it is most recently. I personally am sick of it too though I can relate to why they are so angry. Give us some time to get over it and you will see most of the "liberal hate" replaced by actual useful conversation. Unless of course their fears become reality. Then their hate may arguably be justified.

My previous post was not meant to be an insult but rather just some advice passed on from someone that once said the same to me. I found it to be good advice, but you can take it however you want.
 
I have a thought that it was probably a computer problem. I'm sure that lately they have been inundated with permit requests and things are in overload.
I lived in NY state for most of my life and had my pistol permit for many years. I retired to NC in 2004 and I'm here to tell you fellow Carolinian's how very lucky you are to have what I consider, a gun friendly state. The fees that NY charges just to add a handgun to the permit, keeps rising which is a typical liberal answer to any problem. The liberal Democrats have a strangle hold on the legislative bodies of the state and haven't changed and won't change in my lifetime. Like BHO, they have created a need for government in the people's minds.
I have crossed posts with Sinixstar before and he claims to be a gun owner who supports BHO and is a confirmed Democrat. Please cut him some slack because he adds a dimension to the conversation that we do not often see on this site. He believes that the incoming administration is not a threat to gun owners.
His beliefs have only reinforced my resolve to be vigilant and protect my Constitutional rights.

NCsmitty
 
I have crossed posts with Sinixstar before and he claims to be a gun owner who supports BHO and is a confirmed Democrat. Please cut him some slack because he adds a dimension to the conversation that we do not often see on this site. He believes that the incoming administration is not a threat to gun owners.
His beliefs have only reinforced my resolve to be vigilant and protect my Constitutional rights.
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I think where we differ - is people like yourself assume that another administration (in this case specifically the McCain administration) would be any better.
I've never offered an opinion that Obama is somehow pro gun. I have said repeatedly that I don't think the political climate is there to make a ban happen, whether Obama wants one or not.
 
gun laws

most older gun laws were intended to deny blacks guns.and then morfed into denying politacal opponents protection against thugs.now it is for power.
new york laws were in regards to Tammany hall in 1906? and their thugs betting and killing opposition.:rolleyes::uhoh:
 
I think where we differ - is people like yourself assume that another administration (in this case specifically the McCain administration) would be any better.
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LOL, I know you would not see the run on firearms purchases that's occurring had that happened. And a few gun owners would be sleeping easier.
The amazing thing is that we seem to agree that the reason for this thread was perhaps an actual computer malfunction and not a "left-wing conspiracy".
I'll leave it at that for now.


NCsmitty
 
I was born and raised in NC. I love the state, and I will always consider it to be "home." But I sure am glad to be rid of that purchase permit crap here in TN.

I almost felt criminal the first time I bought a handgun FTF after moving here.

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BTW- Your sheriff's office normally gets you permits in a couple hours? In Wake County, it was a minimum five-day wait.

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