Nebulous Terms and Silly Gun Expressions

That comes from back when they used to use percussion caps as primers to set off the charge and fire the gun. The term "Bust a Cap" was in using the 1800s.

I don't remember if it was in the movie but in the book True Grit Lucky Ned Pepper tells Mattie Ross "I've never busted a cap on a woman or anybody much under 16." That was correct for the time period
That dialog is in the 1969 movie version of True Grit when Lucky Ned Pepper tells Maddie Ross, "I never busted a cap on a woman or nobody much under 16, but it's enough that you know that I'll do what I have to do."

I just think it's been hijacked as a slang term and rode into the ground of popular culture.
 
“High Power Rifle” is one that I think a lot of folks bark up the wrong tree over. Can’t really blame the gun-ignorant for the term “Highpower,” when the NRA picked that name themselves for the governance of centerfire rifle competition, Service Rifle, F-Class, Long Range Match, etc.

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“Small bore rifle” is an interesting term which also isn’t intuitively assigned, even by those in the authority to assign it. It’s used in official capacity to reflect 22 Rimfire and Air rifle, whereas most “gun guys” want to assign “small bore” to anything 30cal or smaller.

Maybe to mention also, another term which has been bothering me this week is the reminder of the common misuse of “long range,” and now, especially “extreme long range” to represent anything longer than a common 100yard range. I was invited to moderate another group on Facebook this month, one focused on Extreme Long Range shooting, but almost every topic discussed is hardly “long range,” and the cartridges used for said. Too many folks thinking their 7RM is an ELR cartridge, not realizing that the 1,000yrd shooting they’ve done, or dreamed of doing, is just conventional, milquetoast long range shooting.
 
Silencer when people are referring to a suppressor. Yes, it chaps my hide and I cringe a bit.
I know what they mean and I try to correct them (when I can) if they say it but popular TV shows keep pounding the gun ignorant with this vocabulary over and over. It's an uphill climb.
 
Silencer when people are referring to a suppressor. Yes, it chaps my hide and I cringe a bit.
I know what they mean and I try to correct them (when I can) if they say it but popular TV shows keep pounding the gun ignorant with this vocabulary over and over. It's an uphill climb.
The original patent documents by Mr Maxim referred to his new invention as a silencer. Why change the name?
 
-"A handgun is just for fighting your way to your long gun/rifle"

You got one of mine there. :thumbup:

Almost invariably that is said by someone carrying a marginal/minimal handgun as a rationalization which is most likely is incorrect (odds are in my favor of being right on this) because they will successfully defend themself (or not) with the handgun they uttered the phrase about.
For example: Carries a LCP or snub and says "a handgun is for fighting ..." :barf: - they are in store, parking lot (wherever) and unexpectedly have to defend against armed attacker(s) most likely the incident will be over in seconds and they will have been successful (or not) at stopping threat(s) with the LCP or snub. The long gun is still wherever it was.
 
One can silence a dog, but not a centerfire rifle round. It's going to make noise, and much more than Hollywood lets on. Maxim wasn't alone in describing his device in ways that make it seem more effective, but in the current climate, it would be false advertising. It plays into the Hollywood lie and scares people who can't or won't consider that gangsters used cars for nefarious purposes too (most of which had a muffler). I personally think muffler is a more accurate reflection of the device's effect, but I am too old to launch campaigns of this magnitude. :D
 
Front stuffer.
“Holy Black” referring to black powder.
Stacks the bullets. (All in the same hole at…)
Shoots flat out to…yards. No drop at all.
Points, referring to hollow point cartridges.
Beam, meaning laser.
Shotty, even used by one of the NRA writers.
I quit now. Meds cooking in.
 
conventional, milquetoast long range shooting.

If it looks a long way off, it is long range; if it is a measured distance over 600 yards and you are keeping score, it is Long Range.

The original patent documents by Mr Maxim referred to his new invention as a silencer. Why change the name?

You can't, it is a "silencer" in the relevant law.

I personally think muffler is a more accurate reflection of the device's effect,

In England they call it a "moderator."

Trivia Alert
The Maxim Silencer Company is still in business, now making industrial mufflers, spark traps, etc.
 
Sub caliber...what is "caliber" that anything is smaller than?

The term is pistol caliber or rifle caliber is more correct, I believe.
 
If it looks a long way off, it is long range; if it is a measured distance over 600 yards and you are keeping score, it is Long Range.

But it’s not EXTREME Long Range. Words have meaning, that’s kinda the point of this thread, it seems, and your choice to skip the adjective here is the same mistake folks make every day, and the source of my frustration which I described above.
 
Sub caliber...what is "caliber" that anything is smaller than?

The term is pistol caliber or rifle caliber is more correct, I believe.

Usually a saboted round, so the actual projectile is smaller than the barrel diameter.
 
Silencer when people are referring to a suppressor.

What does it say on your tax stamp applications?

Legally, I don’t possess anything which is considered a “suppressor,” but I have paperwork for several “Silencers.” I DID consider using “muffler” on my most recent application, since that’s listed as an option. “Suppressor,” however, is not.
 
Usually a saboted round, so the actual projectile is smaller than the barrel diameter.

Discussions I've seen with sub-caliber are not talking about sabboted bullets, but rather less than Rifle calibers.
 
But it’s not EXTREME Long Range. Words have meaning, that’s kinda the point of this thread, it seems, and your choice to skip the adjective here is the same mistake folks make every day, and the source of my frustration which I described above.

I know of the Extreme Long Range game but was going by NRA terminology.
Does NRA or any other central organization oversee ELR?
The reports I have seen looked like kind of ad hoc affairs.
 
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