Nebulous Terms and Silly Gun Expressions

[CapnMac]

- "High-powered rifle" (a meaningless description when used by clueless news reporters)

"We" probably ought hold them to task for using "high powered" as an adjective, rather than "high power" as a descriptive noun.

Unless the actual subject being referred to is a double rifle in 500nitro express, or one of the Gibbs or Jefferies calibers.

Hmm, would a Sharps 50-100 "count" as a "higher powered" rifle

That's not a bug that's a feature

In the interest of fairness, screenwriters can only write what they know, and they know less than Jon Snow.

How to stack chairs at the S-bux knock-off coffeehouse, sure. But, what they don't know, they must needs invent, and invent poorly.

 

[Jeff62]

To those that posted the Lonelymachines link, thank you.
That was a fun read.

 

[CapnMac]

Oh, and for nebulous expressions designed to hurt the gun community, few are as awful as "mass shooting."

The bald phrase suggests a dozen or more; but all the university "studies" have settled on 3 (or 4) victims (and potential victims). That's how they can conger up what ever the current dire total is, when ever they want one.

 

[The Night Rider]

In the interest of fairness, screenwriters can only write what they know, and they know less than Jon Snow...... But, what they don't know, they must needs invent, and invent poorly.

I disagree. I'm absolutely convinced there is an agenda in play there. Benefit too many talking points and buzzwords for it to be an accident

 

[Smokin Gator]

I think my favorite part was the use of Duct tape to attach/double-up more "trauma" plates to his body armor. It was either that or the special boots that allowed him to climb walls, but you had to be a high level ninjitsu man to make it all work... Great stuff.

At the other nameless forum, we're not allowed to talk about him or the thread will get locked down fast. Fun memories though.

So far, we have a good list going so keep them coming.

One of my favorites, if I'm remembering correctly was when he talked about wanting to have plates on his back to absorb multiple .308 rifle rounds from the rear while he or his girlfriend assembled a takedown rifle he had. One poster followed up with "if that's plan A I hope you have plan B ready."

 

[Varminterror]

I know of the Extreme Long Range game but was going by NRA terminology.
Does NRA or any other central organization oversee ELR?
The reports I have seen looked like kind of ad hoc affairs.

The NRA defines LR, but not ELR.

ELR is relatively standardized nationally and approaching internationally now. There are a few factions which are stubborn about their specific rules - for example, King of 2 Miles is ONE match which is probably one of the most globally recognized, kinda viewed like the Super Bowl of ELR, but it's just ONE match, and they use 10lb lower maximum weight for Heavy division, and require a folding bipod, which the rest of the game doesn't.

But the dudes talking in this "Extreme Long Range" group on FB are decidedly NOT talking about any form of ELR, and typically, not even talking about true LR distances. They just live by that description you offered - "if it looks far away, it's extreme long range." Maybe I can start a car racing series with mini-vans and pretend we're holding NASCAR races...

 

[Old Dog]

Oh, and for nebulous expressions designed to hurt the gun community, few are as awful as "mass shooting."

What's truly annoying -- and completely misleading -- about this new standard is that almost all of these so-called "mass shootings" involve gang-related activity in urban areas in which typically several miscreants start firing wildly and a handful of folks get winged (with the fatalities seemingly innocent bystanders in many cases). Thus the statistics get padded...

 

[Jim Watson]

Maybe I can start a car racing series with mini-vans and pretend we're holding NASCAR races...

I get FBs from the Goodwood Festival in England. There are some interesting races with cars you would not expect to see on a track. They are not as fast as a built racecar, but they are not kidding around.

 

[Spats McGee]

I don't know where "booger hook off the bang switch" came from, but .... It's silly, but IME, it's actually pretty useful for teaching young shooters. Perhaps especially boys. It gets a giggle out of them, and they remember it.

 

[The Night Rider]

What's truly annoying -- and completely misleading -- about this new standard is that almost all of these so-called "mass shootings" involve gang-related activity in urban areas in which typically several miscreants start firing wildly and a handful of folks get winged (with the fatalities seemingly innocent bystanders in many cases). Thus the statistics get padded...

Again, that's not a bug it's feature.

 

[The Night Rider]

This post just might get deleted but I'm going to say it anyway.

Do you guys really not get that the media isn't stupid?

Do you really not understand that they're deliberately feeding you misinformation?

Actually, they're not feeding us misinformation we know it's not true but it seems to me that gun owners (taken as a group) don't seem to be able to make the jump to the idea that the media is deliberately lying to people.

I've said before, I think several times. that we've already lost the Culture War. I'm absolutely convinced that the Second Amendment will be rescinded within the next two generations and a large part of that is because of the "News" media deliberately reporting false information.

There was a post that I made I think in this discussion about The Woke Rookie and the stupid things that they say on that show about guns but the reality is that people who don't know any better and whose vote counts just as much as yours believe that crap.

There was a television show several years ago called ER. It Starred Anthony Edwards and George Clooney.

Shortly after the first or second season of that TV show was on the air doctors in emergency rooms started getting a rash of first-year residents intubating people wrong.

They all seemed to be doing it in a similar incorrect manner. Research indicated that they were doing it exactly the way they saw it on ER.

There are people out there who honest to God believe that you can walk through a metal detector with a Glock and it won't detect it.

There are honest to God people out there who believe that a ghost gun is somehow more untraceable than a stolen gun or a gun that was bought in a legal private sale.

Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

I'm done ranting

 

[ballman6711]

I just read the link to the "Mall Ninja", and OMG I have to say I couldn't believe that I was reading that crap. I haven't read anything that funny in a long time. Not sure if the guy was serious and really believed it all, or if he was having a bit of fun.

chris

 

[Old Dog]

Do you guys really not get that the media isn't stupid?

Do you really not understand that they're deliberately feeding you misinformation?

Whatchyou talkin' 'bout, Willis?

I'm here to tell you that a lot of the media really is that stupid. I have a family member who used to write for a syndicated newspaper, another who's worked in the television industry. Ah, the stories...

I took a local newspaper reporter (solidly liberal) to the range once a few years ago, when he unexpectedly answered my invitation to learn about firearms when I publicly took issue with some of his reporting. I didn't change his political views, but I got him educated to the point where he was accurately reporting on law enforcement and crime with respect to firearms.

However, yes, absolutely there's also an agenda, and the folks perpetuating that agenda depend on the unquestioning, sheep-like following of the folks - whose paychecks and livelihood depend on going along -that write and report broadcast/print news and television shows.

it seems to me that gun owners (taken as a group) don't seem to be able to make the jump to the idea that the media is deliberately lying to people.

The media does not believe they're deliberately lying. And they believe it's for the public good.

 

[The Night Rider]

Whatchyou talkin' 'bout, Willis?

I'm here to tell you that a lot of the media really is that stupid. I have a family member who used to write for a syndicated newspaper, another who's worked in the television industry. Ah, the stories...

I took a local newspaper reporter (solidly liberal) to the range once a few years ago, when he unexpectedly answered my invitation to learn about firearms when I publicly took issue with some of his reporting. I didn't change his political views, but I got him educated to the point where he was accurately reporting on law enforcement and crime with respect to firearms.

However, yes, absolutely there's also an agenda, and the folks perpetuating that agenda depend on the unquestioning, sheep-like following of the folks - whose paychecks and livelihood depend on going along -that write and report broadcast/print news and television shows.
The media does not believe they're deliberately lying. And they believe it's for the public good.

I suspect that the answer is a combination of what you posted and what I posted

 

[dekibg]

“Tragic boating accident”
Corny …
And as someone said - it probably means you would not stand up for anything

 

[J-Bar]

When an editorial in major gun rights organization's publication says, "Now is the time to fight!"
Really?
Where have you been for the last 60 years?