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Hi am new to the forum but this will probably be a dumb question but here goes...I have a Remington 7400 semi-auto in 30-06 My buddy wants to trade me his Marlin 1894 lever 44 mag for my rifle. My question is aside from the pros and cons of semi vs lever want i am concerned about is would I be losing or gaining in range/hitting power. I normally fire 180 grain shell in mine while he uses 250 grain in his. I know it sounds dumb but was curious as the 06 is a lot larger shell phisically.by the way both rifles are in mint condition. thanks in advance for your help
 
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i'm no expert, but the -06 will be a harder hitter and much more of a long-range gun.

depending on what you want to use your rifle for, one will definitely be a better choice than the other. the .44 strikes me as a small game/ranch/farm/truck rifle, and the -06 as a long range medium/large game rifle...
 
Unless you need a lever in 44 stay w/ the 30-06. You can do more with the 30-06.
 
I have both one is a thompson center pro hunter in 3006 and a winchester m94 in 44 mag. I like therm both and wouldnt trade them for nothing A 06 will reach out to 300yds + verry efetivly. A 44mag is really efective out to 100 to 150 yds. This depends on what grn of bullets your using in both guns prviding that u reload. Another question for you what do you intend to use if for and at what range your going to shoot at. And if you hunt what is your game to be? Both will be efective on just about any north american game from jack rabbits to mose and grizzly bear. I hope this will help
 
The 30-06 is a much better all around cartridge and will be better suited to more hunting applications.

The Marlin is a much better rifle and is worth more money.

If it were me I would take the trade in a minute. I would then buy a bolt rifle in 30-06 and have 2 rifles. One for short range work, and another for long range.
 
I think I will do the trade as I shot my daughters Marlin 336 lever .35 and seems a little easier to keep on target. Next question is should I buy a 30-06 bolt or would a .308 be better? sorry for all the questions just appreciate advice from others who know more then I (and that wouldn't take much):D
 
I'd keep the Remington 7400. My dad's been using one in 30-06 for a LONG time and it's been a great gun for him.


-- John
 
Both rifles are "classics". The Marlin 1894, especially if it has the nice walnut stock, is probably the higher quality rifle, but the .30-06 is by far the better and more versatile hunting rifle. You mention:
what i am concerned about is would I be losing or gaining in range/hitting power.
If I had a .30-06 (or .308 Win) for hunting, I would think of the .44 Magnum Marlin as a self-defense carbine (short rifle). Self-defense against humans, that is, or maybe charging boar. The big fat 0.44" diameter bullet, particularly in 250 grain (heavy!), even more in hollow point, is a slow "bumble bee" round that will deposit a ton of energy in soft flesh at short ranges (25-75 yards). Tremendous stopping power. In pistol self-defense "school", we are taught that the ideal penetration depth is about 12" into the animal (human). Ideally the bullet stays in the target, to avoid overpenetration and damage to objects (and people) behind the target. The .44 Mag from a carbine gives you this kind of "terminal ballistics" at the distances I mentioned (from handguns, shorter distances).

The .30-06 bullet, by contrast, is only 0.30" diameter, travels at nearly 3000 feet per second and spins at 150,000 to 180,000 rpm. For most .30-06 loads, at a range of 25 yards, the bullet just drills a small-ish hole through flesh and keeps going at lethal speed for another 1000 yards or more. Extremely deadly but not the massive knock-down* power (= flesh destruction) of the fatter .44" bullet. The .30-06 has much longer range, hundreds of yards (would you use a scope on either rifle?), and the low flesh damage is exactly what you want for relatively delicate, non-dangerous game like deer - it's a shame to mess up the backstraps with blood/contusion if you're a little off the frontal chest/lower neck aiming point.

All in all, the rounds these two rifles shoot are very, very different. Not to say you couldn't hunt with the .44 Mag (more sporting) or defend yourself with the .30-06 (the M1 Garand infantry rifle was .30-06 for a long time). They are just very, very different. There's more to learn. Do you feel like studying ballistics? You can find the info on the web.

'Nother pointer: Use a title for your thread that asks a specific question or says "teach me about X". Your title "Need advice" does not attract many readers and answerers.

* As discussed many times on THR, the wording "first-shot stopping power" is more realistic than "knock-down power". The "knock down power" of any downrange round can, at most, be equal to the recoil you felt when shooting the firearm, which you withstood easily without falling down. If you want to learn more, search on these terms or ask further in this thread.
 
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Thanks

Bill_rights thank you for the education it was appreciated. I asked this question at our local hunting club but most of the answers seemed to be more of personal preference. I also owe you thanks because I used your reply to convince the better half that the best way was to make the trade and buy another 06 as suggested by jmr40 thanks guys now will 2 rifles instead of one:D
 
The 30-06 is a far more capable caliber for hunting than the .44 mag. The .44 should work within its range limits that I would guess is about 100-150 yards.

The 30-06 has far far more range than the .44 mag and is a lot more powerful. Once you get into rifle velocities, the shock of the bullet strike alone can damage organs the bullet never touches. If I remember correctly that velocity is somewhere around 2000 feet per second.

I dont know really anything about the Remmy 7400 but it seems many here think the Marlin is a better rifle than it so go for it.

When you buy the new rifle either the '06 or the 308 will be good choices. From a practical stand point they are pretty similar with the '06 giving you the ability to use heavier bullets for big game.
 
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