So it's been the worst week of my life... I needed a replacement car and was in a hurry and had left my pistol on the bumper of my car before I left the house. The wife and I got about 25-30 minutes down the road before I realized I had not grabbed it. I've looked and looked and looked for it to no avail. Local Police have already been notified. Do I need to report it to the atf as well? Is there any laws broken? I'm assuming my ccw will be suspended
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bullseye308
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A lot will depend on the state you are in.
Theohazard
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Federally, there is nothing you're required to do. The ATF is a federal agency, so there's no requirement to contact them.
However, there might be something you're required to do under state or local laws. Not knowing the laws of Ohio, I don't want to speculate on that. Contacting the local police was definitely a good start. Ideally, they would have told you if you broke any laws or if any further action is required of you, but local police can't always be relied upon to know all applicable laws.
If you want to be certain you're following the law to the T, I'd recommended contacting a local attorney who has specific knowledge of Ohio firearms laws.
However, there might be something you're required to do under state or local laws. Not knowing the laws of Ohio, I don't want to speculate on that. Contacting the local police was definitely a good start. Ideally, they would have told you if you broke any laws or if any further action is required of you, but local police can't always be relied upon to know all applicable laws.
If you want to be certain you're following the law to the T, I'd recommended contacting a local attorney who has specific knowledge of Ohio firearms laws.
1KPerDay
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Good luck in your search. I just wanted to say that is that's the worst week of your life you've been doing pretty well. 
Fine Figure of a Man
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I get upset when I do that with my coffee cup.
Good luck in your search. I just wanted to say that is that's the worst week of your life you've been doing pretty well.
Got in an accident, the ignition broke on my car, have to take it to the dealer to get ignition fixed, have to renew all my registrations, need a new vehicle, lost my glock I've only had for like 3 months. Freaking out hoping someone doesn't do anything stupid with it.
I think maybe you should read this.
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-r-0335.htm
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-r-0335.htm
NIGHTLORD40K
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Work at a car dealership. Had a sheriffs deputy trade in a vehicle- left his backup pistol under the drivers seat. The car made it through inspection and detailing and nobody noticed the loaded gun! Fortunately the car was still on the lot a week later when he realized his mistake. Ugh.
Talk to all your closest neighbors, yet? I once found a co-worker's jacket,
the pockets were literally crammed with 20$ bills. Not my business, I just
held onto the jacket for the guy, till the next day. He came in with a haunted look
on his face, and was very relieved to recover his jacket intact. (No, I didn't get a "reward",
or frankly, even expect one.)
Bide your time, OP, and have a little faith. Most folks are OK.
the pockets were literally crammed with 20$ bills. Not my business, I just
held onto the jacket for the guy, till the next day. He came in with a haunted look
on his face, and was very relieved to recover his jacket intact. (No, I didn't get a "reward",
or frankly, even expect one.)
Bide your time, OP, and have a little faith. Most folks are OK.
JN01
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You have committed no crime, there is no reason for them to suspend your CPL. Sucks you lost your gun, but it's a Glock, so it can be easily replaced. If you filed a police report, you should be covered in the event some miscreant finds it.
Klint Beastwood
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yeah if you are an NRA member...they MIGHT help with a replacement...also I had a gun stolen out of my locked car...yes it was vandalized while i was getting a fathers day card in the store on the way back from the range...in a crowded parking lot...during the day. I had full coverage and my insurance gave me the value of the gun back...so you might have options.
Contacting and reporting the gun lost or stolen should have you good for everything else...only in cali might you need to worry about liability lol
Contacting and reporting the gun lost or stolen should have you good for everything else...only in cali might you need to worry about liability lol
MedWheeler
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^^ I assume you provided them with the serial number and it was entered into NCIC and your state's CIC system?
I had one stolen in a vehicle burglary in 1989, and I was a LEO at the time (the burglary did not occur within my agency's jurisdiction.) It was recovered after a drive-by shooting almost three years later. A car chase on a suspect vehicle turned into a foot-chase (four, actually, since four suspects bailed from the car.) All four suspects threw down guns as they ran; mine was one of them. Once it was confirmed it was not the one used in the shooting, I was located and notified (I had since moved two counties away), and it was returned to me.
I had one stolen in a vehicle burglary in 1989, and I was a LEO at the time (the burglary did not occur within my agency's jurisdiction.) It was recovered after a drive-by shooting almost three years later. A car chase on a suspect vehicle turned into a foot-chase (four, actually, since four suspects bailed from the car.) All four suspects threw down guns as they ran; mine was one of them. Once it was confirmed it was not the one used in the shooting, I was located and notified (I had since moved two counties away), and it was returned to me.
BSA1
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You can do your own leg work as police resources are often limited. Visit all of the pawn shops in your area and inform them of your missing Glock.
It is possible that whoever found your gun will want to get rid of it quickly. A co-worker had his AR-15 stolen from his car earlier this year. After filing a police report he did his own leg work and found his rifle in a pawn shop three days later. Police ran a test to make sure in had not be used in any shootings and he had his gun back in a week.
It is possible that whoever found your gun will want to get rid of it quickly. A co-worker had his AR-15 stolen from his car earlier this year. After filing a police report he did his own leg work and found his rifle in a pawn shop three days later. Police ran a test to make sure in had not be used in any shootings and he had his gun back in a week.
You reported the lost gun to your local police as required by Ohio law, so no crime has been committed. You won't lose your CHL.
Ohio law on lost or stolen guns:
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.20v1
Ohio law on lost or stolen guns:
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.20v1
lemaymiami
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One or two additional items to remember about lost/stolen weapons that have been reported to your local agency. As long as you provided a serial number with your report that's what will be entered into NCIC (or whatever it's called these days) and it will remain there forever until it's been recovered.... That's where you come in - if you're fortunate enough to recover your Glock on your own - make sure to report that, along with the original case number back to the agency you made your first report with - then follow up to make sure the lost/stolen message is cancelled in NCIC... Otherwise an innocent owner in possession of a weapon that still is listed as stolen will have a problem... It will be sorted out eventually - but not before whoever has it needs a lawyer....
Remember that if you ever move - you'll need to file an addition to your original report with your new contact info so that the reporting agency can contact you if that weapon is ever recovered... I was a police department's property officer years ago - and I can't tell you how many times a recovered firearm was never returned to the original owner - because years later they'd moved away and we never had valid contact info..... Every now and then a firearm is recovered somewhere - that was reported stolen thirty or forty years before - you can guess how often the original reporter is still at the original address (or even still alive....).
"and so it goes" -Vonnegut
Remember that if you ever move - you'll need to file an addition to your original report with your new contact info so that the reporting agency can contact you if that weapon is ever recovered... I was a police department's property officer years ago - and I can't tell you how many times a recovered firearm was never returned to the original owner - because years later they'd moved away and we never had valid contact info..... Every now and then a firearm is recovered somewhere - that was reported stolen thirty or forty years before - you can guess how often the original reporter is still at the original address (or even still alive....).
"and so it goes" -Vonnegut
MedWheeler
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lemaymiami writes:
Excellent point, one I should have made in my post earlier. I'm sure lemaymiami, like myself, made more than a few stops on cars coming back as stolen that had been recovered by, and were being driven by, their owners. A felony stop on a driver who thinks he's just minding his own business can be pretty rattling..
Excellent point, one I should have made in my post earlier. I'm sure lemaymiami, like myself, made more than a few stops on cars coming back as stolen that had been recovered by, and were being driven by, their owners. A felony stop on a driver who thinks he's just minding his own business can be pretty rattling..
lemaymiami
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That brings back a few bad memories... Once I'd been on the street a few years I always tried to remember that every now and then a computer "hit" (stolen gun, stolen car, felony warrant from out of state... ) might not be solid at all. I learned the hard way not to take much of anything "official" for granted and was always willing to do a bit of research - sometimes while on the street before making an arrest or seizing a supposedly stolen car if you had that luxury.... It always helped back then (before cell phones) to have someone skilled on the desk back at the station to make a few calls and do a bit of verification before you said "get in the car".
I hadn't thought about that sort of stuff for years -thanks for reminding me...
I hadn't thought about that sort of stuff for years -thanks for reminding me...
Panzerschwein
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Did you turn around to look for it?
Neo-Luddite
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Solid advice, but remember that an individual who is any manner of FFL (not saying this gentleman is of course) may be required to report the theft to ATF as well, and the theft of weapons owned/held under such a license may constitute a federal crime. The ATF mentions this on some of its brochures/ posters.
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