Need Help With Baby Browning trigger-sear connector reassembly

[larstusor]

I was given a Baby Browning as part payment for services and it appeared to have been neglected so I decided to strip it down for a good inspection and cleaning. The top end is a no brainer but when I took off the grip panels the trigger-sear connector fell off before I had a chance to look it over. Now when I put it back on it drops down just a tad and will not depress the sear when the trigger is pulled. It works fine if I keep upwards pressure on the connector. I don't see how the sear spring would apply upward pressure to the connector, unless it has somehow gotten out of position when the connector fell off. The various schematics I've looked are no help in this regard.

Obviously, I'm missing something here. What is the correct method for reinstalling the connector? Any help is greatly appreciated as this has become a frustrating project.

 

[rcmodel]

You might be missing putting the slide back on before you try it.

The hole in the slide the striker rides in keeps it from dropping down with the sear when you pull the trigger with the slide off.

Also keeps you from shooting your eye out with the striker!!

Here is an Owners Manual:
http://media.browning.com/pdf/om/25auto_s.pdf

rc

 

[larstusor]

Maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees but I don't see any interaction between the connector (which uses the rearward movement of the trigger to depress the sear and release it from engagement with the firing pin [striker]) and the firing pin itself.

 

[larstusor]

Nobody else have a clue either?

 

[GCBurner]

Maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees but I don't see any interaction between the connector (which uses the rearward movement of the trigger to depress the sear and release it from engagement with the firing pin [striker]) and the firing pin itself.

There's a teeny, tiny little hairspring that goes between the connector and the sear that may be broken, missing, or out of position. It's kind of an odd shape, but if you look at the .pdf file listed above, in the diagram on Page 2, it's part 5093.

 

[Coltdriver]

Just to co miserate with you I got a beater rusted Baby Browning once and detail stripped it.

Cleaned it up and like to never got it back together! Took me hours to figure it out. My part number 5095 had to be replaced and I put new grips on it.

Once it was finally back together it shoots and still will shoot as fast as I can pull the trigger. It has been utterly reliable!

Good luck with yours!

 

[rcmodel]

Maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees

Be aware the Baby Browning has a magazine disconnect safety.

It won't work without a magazine in it.

rc

 

[larstusor]

There's a teeny, tiny little hairspring that goes between the connector and the sear that may be broken, missing, or out of position. It's kind of an odd shape, but if you look at the .pdf file listed above, in the diagram on Page 2, it's part 5093.

I have been trying to figure out the correct postion for that little spring leg. Right now it is pointing up to about 11:00 o'clock in the openning into which the connector fits. The schematics aren't precise enough to give the correct orientation of the sear spring. It doesn't seem to matter if I try to put the connector's pin in front of or behind that "hairspring", it (the connector's pin) defaults to where it wants to be and the connector still has enough downward movement to fall out of engagement with the sear release, whether the grips are on or off and whether the magazine is in or out.

I can only conclude that the sear spring, and consequently the leg that holds the connector up, is not in the correct postion though the horizontal leg holding the sear up seems to be just in the right place. Very confounding!!!

 

[GCBurner]

Looking at the schematic enlarged, it looks like the Sear Spring (5093) has two coils that fit over pins on the Sear (5088), one pin on the Sear itself, and the second on the Sear Pin (5090) that's inserted through the left side of the frame to hold the sear in place. That would position the top part of the Sear Spring under the pin sticking out of the Connector (5060).
It's kind of like a jigsaw puzzle, isn't it?

 

[larstusor]

Ha-lay-lu-ya

Well I finally got it!

I appreciate all your suggestions though none were exactly right (at least on my gun) but the idea of a jig-saw puzzle got me thinking a little differently and I realized that I had to turn (not drop) the connector into place so that it put pressure against the vertical leg of the wire spring, and, like magic, it all came together. I see why FN/Browning suggests that removal of the slide and barrel is all one needs to do for cleaning this piece.

Anyone want a Baby Browning (he-he-he)?

Thanks guys.

 

[dreamer56]

Congrats - now take it apart and then put it all back together in a video for all the Baby Browning owners! There is really nothing out there like that for this pistol and you would be famous (and appreciated.)

 

[larstusor]

Dreamer,

I don't have a digital video camera; but I might borrow one and do as you suggest; not for fame but so no one else has to go through the aggravation. Of course, once you do it right you knock yourself in the head because heck, that was simple!

 

[GCBurner]

Reminds me of the first time I disassembled a Broomhandle Mauser pistol. It truly is a jigsaw puzzle. Thank God there are a couple of Internet pages with illustrated assembly/disassembly instructions, or it would still be a pile of little parts.

 

[larstusor]

At least I didn't have any parts left over; actually been there before!