Need Help with Rem/Uberti 1858 New Army

[Chubbo]

Hi, All:
I need to unscrew the barrel of my Rem./Uberti 1858 Rem. New Army. Can anyone tell me which way it is threaded into the frame? Is it right hand threads Or left handed? I had an unfortunate misshap at the range today. I tried some commercially loaded .45 LC cartridges in my Rem. 1858 New Army, using a R&D conversion cyl. and there was a squib load on the first shot, that left, what I thought, was a a slug in the bbl. but was actually two slugs in the bbl. and the last one is part way into the bbl. and still part of the way in the cylinder. I drilled a hole in the first slug and using a muzzle loading ball puller and pulled it from the bbl. Then I found the other one when I tried to remove the cylinder. I broke off the long bit that I was using in the second ball. I was using a centering dowell on the bit, and it must have bound up and broke. Now it seems that my only option is to unscrew the bbl. Any thoughts on this? I have never unscrewed a bbl from a revolver, but it has an octogon bbl. and should be no problem getting a grip on the bbl. but I need to know which way to unscrew it. Any pointers that I should know? I'll bet that only my reloads will be used in the future.
Thanks.
Chubbo

 

[Curator]

The threads are right-hand. I think Uberti uses a very heavy piece of equipment or special thread-locking compound on their barrel threads. I have had to heat the frames of Uberti Remington replicas to break the barrels free. I'm not sure about newer models since my experience was five or six years ago. I think they were bought out by Beretta a few years back. You might check with them before starting.

 

[Hellgate]

I have turned the barrels on a couple of Piettas in order to change the POI to get them sighted in. I took my advice from the late Tom Ball who was quite well respected amont accurized Remington owners in the N/SSA. He told me the Ubertis were epoxied and not easily turned. Whether it is an epoxy or some other thread locker it might not be easy. Can't you just pound the ball back into the case/chamber?

 

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Blow it Out

My thought would be is to use a co2 unit with a flintlock adapter on it and
put this in the nipple and blow it out. I think this should work.

 

[theotherwaldo]

Did your drill bit get far enough into the ball to bridge the gap into the cylinder? If not, then just file some notches in a piece of shim stock that fits into the gap and use it to saw through the ball. Then pull the cylinder, drive out the chunk in the barrel, and pull or blow out what's left in the cylinder.

 

[Chubbo]

Hi, All:
It sounds like I am out of luck on unthreading the bbl. with my limited experiance.
to Kwhi43, the sad part of the story is, that it is an R&D conversion cyl. that is stuck in the gun.
To theotherwaldo, yes, the slug seems to be bridging the gap between the bbl. and the cylinder. I have tried to tap the slug back into the cylinder, but I think there is another live .45LC cartridge in the cyl. behind the stuck slug. There are three other live cartridges in the cyl. also. this makes me very apprehensive in trying to tap on the cyl. The advice about pulling a piece of shim stock, with notches in it back and fourth through the cylinder gap sounds like the only answer, other than there only seems to be one or two thousands clearance to work with. To be honest with you it seems to me to be an impossible task. At this point it seems like, to me a total loss of a revolver, shot only about a dozen times used only with the converson cyl. and 45.LC cartridges, and the conversion cyl. itself.
Thanks for the info. I will try to use the shim stock saw, but I don't think it will work.
Chubbo

 

[1858rem]

curious was it smokeless or bp loads? if smokeless you will have a good half inch free space to push a bullet back into the live case depending if the crimp will hold and buckle the case or just cut the lead and let you push the bullet back in.


not to hijack the thread.....
Hellgate

I have turned the barrels on a couple of Piettas in order to change the POI to get them sighted in

would that work on a pietta also? im hitting about 4-5 inches to the left consistently outta my kirst konverted 1858 fixed sights. how did you go about doing that?

 

[MISSEDSHOT]

another piece of advice,or two.

Wire EDM.Do you have a friend in the machining/tool & die line of work,you can cut the slug out that way,the wire isn't very expensive but the work is, it will save your revolver and the cylinder.One example of wire diameter is .004.Or drill the middle out of the other slugs and shoot them out!Get with an experienced machinist who is a shootist!!!

 

[whosyrdaddy]

I think there is another live .45LC cartridge in the cyl. behind the stuck slug.

If the round didn't fire, how did the bullet get half way out of the cylinder?

 

[jmaubin]

At this point the best I can offer is "CALL A GUN SMITH" there are some things best left to the pros.