Need some advice...

[IWAC]

My Ruger Match Champion's standard springs are 14 lb. for the hammer, and 12 lb. for the trigger return spring. I have polished the internals lightly. Both the Double action and single action trigger pulls are heavier than I'd like for a range and general purpose gun. Does anybody know what combination of spring poundage should get me to a single action pull of ~3 1/2- 4 lbs, and a double action pull of 8-10 lbs. , provided this will give me reliable ignition? Are Wolff springs a good choice? Neither of my trigger gauges will measure more than 8 lbs, so any suggestions will be carefully considered.
Thanx!

 

[J-Bar]

Wolff springs are great springs. I have used them in several revolvers, but I have no experience with the Match Champion. You are probably going to have to order several different strength springs and experiment, including trimming the springs, to get the custom results you want. Reliable ignition will require a soft primer when springs are lighter. Federal primers are usually the ones recommended, but they are about impossible to find these days. Good luck on finding the right combination of springs and primers that work in your revolver.

 

[UncleEd]

Try first using ONLY a 10-pound trigger return spring.
See if you like the results.

If not, then go to a 12-pound hammer spring in
combination with the 10 pound return spring.

It's surprising how a smooth trigger even though
registering higher than you like on a gauge can be
quite pleasant in actual use.

I use Wilson Combat springs but results will be
probably be the same with the Wolff.

 

[someguy2800]

I've used both the wolf and wilson combat kits in sp101's. I would do the return spring first. That will probably get you to your stated goal. If you still want it lighter do the heavier of the two hammer springs in the kit as well.

 

[StrawHat]

As Uncle Ed mentioned, you want a smooth trigger pull, not necessarily a light one.

My set up in my revolvers, competition, carry or target, is the same. Polish the spots that affect the trigger pull and get a nice smooth trigger pull. I leave the factory springs in place. All primers must pop for me.


I lost a match because of an aftermarket spring not popping a primer. Never again!

Kevin

 

[UncleEd]

My experience with S&W and Ruger is that they "over spring" their
revolvers to assure absolute, maximum reliability in firing.

Then we gun buyers too often immediately negate that reliability.
I know I'm guilty.

 

[Tallball]

I've put Wolff spring kits into around ten revolvers. Only one gave light strikes afterwards. The kits are cheap and you can just change the springs back out if there's a problem.

 

[StrawHat]

My experience with S&W and Ruger is that they "over spring" their
revolvers to assure absolute, maximum reliability in firing.

Then we gun buyers too often immediately negate that reliability.
I know I'm guilty.

I do not think they are “over sprung”. I believe the extra hour needed to fine tune the action is no longer applied. I have finely tuned actions with factory springs and no one believes they are factory springs. Bill Davis could tune an action. So could Jim Clark, Andy Horvath, Jerry Miculek, and a few more. I learned how but am not as good as those mentioned.

Too many folks change springs, fiddle with the strain screw, and expect perfection. It was nearly perfect from the factory, just not smooth.

Kevin

 

[UncleEd]

For me, I mentioned that I have changed out the trigger
return springs, S&W or Ruger, as I shoot double action
mostly but have not suffered short stroking.

I leave the hammer spring alone to assure reliable
ignition of primers.

Certainly with a weaker trigger return spring, I could be
more liable to a short stroke if under very dire pressure.
But weaker springs are used in guns for range toy time,
not for "street" or home defense.

 

[UncleEd]

Turning to a s slightly difference subject, the Colt Python
2020. I have read of owners returning the guns because
of unreliable ignition. I think Colt in its effort to give
shooters a soft, light DA pull, it sacrificed reliability.
Now I understand Colt has upped the spring weight in
its Pythons 2020 to correct the problem as seldom as it
might have been