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I have to wonder why you left your carry gun where a house guest could access it while they were in your home. If this was something you let him handle then it would be prudent to check it afterwards.
 
I have to wonder why you left your carry gun where a house guest could access it while they were in your home. If this was something you let him handle then it would be prudent to check it afterwards.
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It was sitting on my night stand cause I had taken it off to get ready for work. Work does not allow me to carry so it has to come off.
 
Mobuck said:
These posts make me so happy I live where I do. If a "suspicious vehicle" drives past more than twice, the next time he gets a laser dot on his hood/windshield.
While my Daughter was a 911 dispatcher, I was awakened by a noise and found a car parked in my driveway next to my mailbox. I couldn't see the interior so after about 5 minutes, I called her on the non 911 line(not recorded). She said one of the Deputies was lost around here somewhere and couldn't find himself on his map. I told her to have him look out his window at the mailbox he was sitting beside. She said when he saw the laser dot on the mailbox he about spilled his coffee. At least he "found himself" and could get to where he was supposed to be.
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I hope you rethink that and you use a little better judgement. That very well could be view as being an instigator.

A couple of months back my new puppy ran out the front door well after dark. I "cased" the neighborhood at a slow speed for about an hour before I found her. I felt bad and figured some people thought I was a up to no good. If someone had pointed a laser light at my car, you better believe I would have called the cops on them and reported a gun pointed at me.

Bad, bad judgement
 
Rexster said:
Regarding the OP's chambered being cleared, it is wise to check the condition of any weapon that has been out of one's direct control. I have read or heard tales of family members unloading weapons too many times for me to trust anyone.
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Too many items to comment on here but this one - Always check the condition of the weapon you pick up. Always. Even if it was yours, and yours alone.

How good is your memory? Is it 100%? Really? Mine isn't.


Unless you chambered it before you left the house and put it in your holster, check it when you pick it up. If the weapon has been out of your immediate control at all since you last loaded it, check it's status. That's your responsibility and no one else's, not your brother's or even your wife's.

Rack the slide and eject a round on the ground if you have to. But when you pick up a gun you "thought" was loaded when you last touched it, unless it never left your immediate control, check it.

Don't blame your brother.
 
A note about the laser on your pistol... don't forget the point of the laser is to show you what the gun is pointed at. If you're pointing the laser, you're pointing the gun. In a situation where the threat of lethal force is not clearly justified, you may be guilty of a felony crime of violence committed with a firearm.
 
Pretty sure the OP gets the point on pointing the laser by now.

I actually find it a bit odd anyone is fondling another person's loaded gun. All other other details aside, doesn't this seem unsafe at best.
 
OilyPablo said:
Pretty sure the OP gets the point on pointing the laser by now.

I actually find it a bit odd anyone is fondling another person's loaded gun. All other other details aside, doesn't this seem unsafe at best.
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It was his brother. Some people take liberties in familial relationships that would clearly be overstepping boundaries for anyone else. I will not comment on the relationship further than that.

On picking up a gun that is supposed to be loaded and checking that it is... Picking up a gun that is supposed to be UNloaded and checking that it is.... Equally important.

If I were commonly in or passing through bad neighborhoods at bad hours and prohibited (by employer, law or prudence) from keeping a gun in my car, I think I would find a self-defense tool that is legal. Pepper spray, baton, short sword, something.

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My brother was over earlier this evening and was ranting about how dangerous it is to keep a round in the chamber.
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If I had to guess, I would bet he is an older brother, and as such, thinks he knows more than you do.

You know what they say--you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family.

However...said brother does not understand the concept of boundaries. He needs to learn all about them, right now.

A guest is a guest, whether family or not. A guest will not take liberties with my wife, my home, my dog, my bike or my gun. If it were me, he would be unwelcome in my home, effective immediately.

If he wants to know why, have that discussion...in no uncertain terms.

Any future visits (in the foreseeable future) would take place at a restaurant or other public place. I would visit him at his home if he were amenable. But he would not have access to my home or my gun...the reasons for that would be crystal clear, and he would have some time to think about this.

Once he understood perfectly what his place in the world is, we can talk about re-instating him as a welcomed guest. But on principle, that would require somewhere between 90-180 days, just to make sure the lesson is well learned and long remembered.
 
You did all you could in my opinion.

The one thing I'd not be doing anytime soon is inviting your brother over for anything.
Not only did he mess with your personal property but it could've had dire consequences which cannot be emphasized enough.
 
I pulled it out and slid the slide back (like I always do before putting it down) and to my absolute horror, the chamber was empty.
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I'll bet the LCI on the Ruger SR9c doesn't seem so silly now ;)

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IMO................this souds like it could have been a possible strong arm robbery attempt or even a home invasion......as far as your brother is concerned.....you deal with that one.
 
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Blame? The fault lies with the OP. I understand being mad, but he needs to be mad at himself. Rule #1... check to see if the gun is loaded.
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You mean like he did? The check part was done in this case. He checked, it wasn't loaded, and he corrected that issue. He's simply (and understandably) aggravated that a gun that he LEFT loaded in his home was unloaded when he next checked it. That I can understand. If he'd needed the gun on a timescale where such a check simply wasn't possible, then that could have had disastrous results.
 
You mean like he did? The check part was done in this case. He checked, it wasn't loaded, and he corrected that issue. He's simply (and understandably) aggravated that a gun that he LEFT loaded in his home was unloaded when he next checked it. That I can understand. If he'd needed the gun on a timescale where such a check simply wasn't possible, then that could have had disastrous results.
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And your point is what?

The correct view here is that the OP got a cheap lesson in gun play. You always check your loads ESPECIALLY when it matters. Leaving a gun in a night stand for a decade and expecting it to work when the chips are down is foolhardy.

No question his brother was an ass. No question that his brother never should have touched the gun.... BUT how much did the OP participate in the brothers actions? Was he showing off his gun and talking about it and thumping his chest? Did it result in a passive aggressive confrontation of sorts? In future, a closed mouth catches no flies and all guns should be inspected to ensure proper function and condition.

Personally, I have revolvers are home defense guns for this specific reason.
 
I hope I never am involved in a situation like that. And I would've called the police right away, especially since you knew the of guy's criminal background. It's only a matter of time until he does something like this again, and there might not be anyone there to stop it. If it were me, and this guy ended up killing someone later on down the road that could have been prevented had I called the police and got him put back in jail, I would feel that the blood was on my hands.
 
You need to have a discussion with your brother about boundaries.

You failed to check your gun before putting it on. There is no excuse. Check your gear every time before leaving the house. This was a good learning experience.

Also, why go to into a possible gun fight with a handgun (in 380 Auto, at that)? Get out a long gun. Perhaps you should do some planning and attend a self-defense course or two.
 
Its the law that all guns must be locked up,
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this is a stupid law and unenforcable unless we allow home inspections. I dont want to force my practices on you, and you shouldn't on me. How about personal freedom to do what we all feel is right.

All in all you handled this well besides the unchambered SD gun. When I first got my CCW I left the house with a completly unloaded revolver. when I got home and "unpacked" I was definatly feeling a little stupid. All you can do is learn from it and move on.
 
Also, why go to into a possible gun fight with a handgun (in 380 Auto, at that)? Get out a long gun. Perhaps you should do some planning and attend a self-defense course or two.
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Its the gun I am most comfortable with. I practice more with it than I do any other gun in the house. I did get my Shotgun out it just wasn't as practical as my carry gun but it did stay near.
 
Its the gun I am most comfortable with. I practice more with it than I do any other gun in the house.
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than it was the right choice. And given the situation, not like storm troopers were knocking on your door.
 
This is a bizarre thread...right from the OP where he is as nervous he's ever been -- even though there is no actual threat -- all the way through the discussion of brotherly boundaries, the threatening use of a laser, and even the value of a loaded chamber indicator.

Definitely got my money's worth on this one.
 
This is a bizarre thread...right from the OP where he is as nervous he's ever been -- even though there is no actual threat -- all the way through the discussion of brotherly boundaries, the threatening use of a laser, and even the value of a loaded chamber indicator.
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Plus, where to put one's carry pistol when one gets home.

Definitely got my money's worth on this one.
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Yep. That should do it.
 
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