Never-seez compound

[LMC]

Hi, i was just curious about how many of you use this http://www.bostik-us.com/products/index.asp?fa=categories&divisionId=6&categoryId=30 as a sort of lubrication on your firearms, i didn't use it yet, just trying to gather some information. thanks

 

[1 old 0311]

I use it for spark plugs, and drain plugs, but I couldn't imagine using it on a firearm.

Kevin

 

[Aguila Blanca]

"Never-Seez" is a brand name for anti-sieze compound.

It is NOT a lubricant. Don't ask me how I proved this conclusively, it's a long story. Take my word for it. It is NOT a lubricant.

 

[HerrWolfe]

Hawk, Would it have anything to do with IGSCC?

 

[Ol` Joe]

I`ve seen it put on shotgun choke tubes but that`s the only use I`m aware of.

 

[m14rick]

another use for never sieze

I use a little dab on the threads of the gas cylinder plug on my M14SA.......

 

[orionengnr]

anti-seize compounds are good for

threaded components that are under load or high torque, dis-similar metals or
pieces subject to extreme heat (+1000 degrees F)

I use anti-seize on wheel lugs, brake and exhaust components on two and four wheel vehicles and prop shaft (and any hardware that is regularly submerged) on my boat.

I might use it on the threaded portion of a revolver barrel, if I were installing a new one...or maybe an AR-15 barrel nut, or something that would be subjected to high torque, or high temp, or both.

YMMV, just my .02.

 

[f4t9r]

It works well on the nut on a AR

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Hawk, Would it have anything to do with IGSCC?

Let's just say it had to do with the extremely premature failure of the bearings of a new drive wheel I installed on a clothes dryer many years ago.

Since I use the stuff everywhere on my vehicles, I assumed it would be good for a bushing-type bearing (not a roller bearing).

BAD assumption. It lasted about a week.

 

[model 649]

I'm pretty sure the copper-based anti-sleaze is what Glock puts on their slide rails at the factory. I use the aluminium based stuff at work alot on high-temp bolts, etc. It's good for threaded joints that get heat-cycled alot and so tend to rot together.
Josh

 

[444]

I had a problem with the gas plug unscrewing on one of my M1s. I read on-line to use never seize on it. This seems contrary to logic: you sort of want it to seize. But, I tried it: works like a charm. I have never had it unscrew again and it comes right out when you want it to come out.
I use it on all the threaded parts of an AR15. I put it on the chamber end of the barrel (dissimilar metals), as well as the threads.

 

[VARifleman]

I've used anti-sieze for pipe unions, but for a gun...no. For those that haven't used it, it's incredibly thick and sticky. It isn't a lubricant at all as several have alreadys stated. It is for use in high torque applications (like the union on a 1.5" pipe that is tightened by a 24" pipe wrench).

 

[bogie]

It works fine (but then so does high pressure grease) as lubricant to keep barrel tenon threads from galling when you screw 'em in and torque 'em down.

 

[Chawbaccer]

It works on breech plugs and nipples on a blackpowder gun.

 

[redneck2]

from a person that has sold industrial lubricants for 17 years...

I use it on all the threaded parts of an AR15. I put it on the chamber end of the barrel (dissimilar metals), as well as the threads.

anti-seize is NOT a lubricant in the conventional sense.

I had a problem with the gas plug unscrewing on one of my M1s. I read on-line to use never seize on it. This seems contrary to logic: you sort of want it to seize. But, I tried it: works like a charm. I have never had it unscrew again and it comes right out when you want it to come out.

It is made to stop parts from seizing up (hence the tricky name)

typical anti-seize products are a combination of lead and aluminum (or copper) in an oil base. If the oil gets cooked out during high temps, the combination of powdered lead and aluminum is in place and keeps the parts from corroding together

anti-seize makes the worst mess imaginable. You use one dab and within 10 minutes it's on everything...and won't wash out. There are far better alternatives (aluminum complex or calcium sulfonate greases) in most cases. The exception would be something like the nipple on blackpowder example. That's a high temperature, corrosive environment with a non-moving part. That's what anti-seize is made for.

Also...

if someone used anti-seize on my firearms, the first place it would try it out would be to shoot the guy that did it

 

[JMusic]

Yes never seize has its place but it is not designed to be a lubricant of repetitive devises. If put into a bushing for example it will soon loose what lub qualities it has and actually work against the bushing. Moly lubes on the other hand is what you should use if you are looking for a long time lube. I like Brownells Action Lube Plus for triggers, slides, springs etc. You should still use a drop of oil occasionaly for top operation.
Jim

 

[redneck2]

the reason it loses lube quality is that the oil is just a carrier for the solids. The oil gets worked out and it leaves a gummy mess that stains everything in sight

 

[wrench]

we used to put it on the earpeice of someone's phone, then call 'em up and laugh when they stuck it in their ear.
they'd look like the tin woodsman all day...

 

[gudel]

I use it for spark plugs, and drain plugs, but I couldn't imagine using it on a firearm.

Kevin

I use anti seize compound for that too and for other bolts that I don't want them to get stuck. I find that light oil is better for firearm lube.

 

[PAC 762]

I use it when pressing AK barrels into trunnions and when pressing barrel pins in. It's pretty commonly used for that purpose.