New Atlanta Georgia Aquarium - NO legal CCW

[geekWithA.45]

Umm....you guys are worried about the accidental discharge of HANDGUNS, of the type normally carried concealed for defensive purposes, ranging roughly from .22lr to 10mm, penetrating 6-12 inches of polycarb?

Nope.

Not gonna happen.

Those big tank windows are THICK and TOUGH.

Gun bigots might call them pocket artillery, but we oughta know better.

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Now, as to the question of privately owned places of public accommodation.

A private place opened to the public does NOT have the full protections of private property, such as a private club, or one's lands or dwelling.

That's a grey, sticky area, especially when it comes with RKBA restrictions.

It is widely accepted, by the public, and by law, that such places of public accommodation may NOT discriminate for certain criteria.

It is also accepted that they may enforce certain behavioral codes, as a condition of admittance, such as dress codes.

It is also accepted that they may enforce additional behavioral codes of conduct, such as are consistent and fairly applied to all.

_HOWEVER_, the right of peaceable armament is a FUNDAMENTAL right.

Isn't that one of our central assertions here?

Isn't it also one of our central assertions that being responsibly, peacably armed is inherently HARMLESS?

I suggest that we here too readily accept the libertarian dogma of private determination of the use of private property, misapplying it to the issue of property open to the public. When a property owner opens his property to the public, he gives up some of his rights and interest in what happens on that property, at least partly in exchange for the advantage he seeks to gain in so doing.

I believe that we should adopt an axiom that "what is lawful on the street ought to be lawful in the private place of public accommodation." If we do want to leave some wiggle room for the property owner, I suggest that at the very least, put the onus on the property owner to show the legitimate necessity for such a restriction, (ie, gunfire likely to cause reactor coolant leaks, leading to meltdown) and require him to provide us with secure storage lockers at the door.

This would certainly keep gratuitious and ideologically driven restrictions to a minimum.

I'm not saying this is what IS, I'm merely trying to arrive at a workable model of how it ought to be, to guide further refinements of social acceptance and law in this area.

 

[solareclipse]

They have systematically been curbing gun powers in GA over the last few years. I am not surprised.

Much the same way they are now making us prepay for gas at all inner city stations.

Evolution at it's best

 

[only1asterisk]

When a property owner opens his property to the public, he gives up some of his rights and interest in what happens on that property, at least partly in exchange for the advantage he seeks to gain in so doing.

I don't disagree, but I think concessions that need to be made by the owner are minor (you can’t shoot someone for coming through a door with an OPEN sign on it).

David

 

[jpthegeek]

went to the aquarium last Sat

Ok, here's my reply to the visit. It's been a rough week, so sorry for the delay.

I didn't plan on carrying in the aquarium. I did however plan on carry my two usual pocket knives: A Spyderco Endura and a run of the mill Swiss Army Knife.

Since it was my wife's birthday and I didn't want any trouble whatsoever, I ended up leaving the Spyderco in my truck but left the Swiss Army in my pocket.

When I got down the street to the entrance and saw the GIANT SIGNS proclaiming unarmed victims should pass through here, I thought twice about my choice to keep said Swiss Army knife. As we made our way through the maze of switchbacks, I started to get a bit nervous.

The 'security' guy wanded me and to my utter disbelief the Swiss Army didn't set it off. The sensitivity of those things must be adjustable.

So, the verdict? Despite what the City of Atlanta (where every day is now a $2 million opening day) says, that part of town is not that nice to be in. It is experiencing a redevelopment due to traffic and low interest rates, but it is still not really a place to be walking alone and as unarmed as the Aquarium wants you to be.

It's very nice as aquariums go, but it was so crowded we didn't get to see very much. At this point, I would rather drive to Chattanooga. Perhaps I should go back on a Tuesday morning when the weather is horrible. Maybe then I would be able to wander through at my leisure.

Bottom line: Unless you carrying the *mythical* GLOCK 7, you will not be able to carry in this establishment despite what the Ga code states.