New BATF Issued Reg!!!

[YankeeRebel]

I had a good time this morning at the range. Enjoyed shooting the reloads I made and did fairly well at keeping the .45 ACP, Ruger P97DC, in or close to the center. Finally starting to get that beast under control.

Mid way though the morning I decided to take a break and went out to the store area. There the owner/manager and another person were talking. They were discussing a new reg or rule just received from the BATF. What really got my attention was when I hear one of them say "...this will be the end of the gun shows". According to what was said they or any FFL can not sell to a person that resides outside of the state in which they are attempting to purchase the weapon. This now pertains to long and short guns.

I asked about an out of state FFL selling at a gun show. Can that FFL send the gun to a FFL in state and complete the sale. NO..NO..NO. Well, what about a FFL just across the state line calls you in this state and the two of you agree upon a price for a gun they are selling to a customer. This can be completed if an employee of either store picks up or delivers the gun. Has anyone else heard about this? Is there more to this or is this just a misinterpretation? They were really upset and so was I.

 

[Mike Irwin]

Hum...

Some of the most incorrect information I've ever heard about BATF regs. has been from various and assorted Cleti at gunshops.

Just to be sure I think a little checking is in order.

 

[Mike Irwin]

Well, just pounded through BATF's website pertaining to both rules and proposed rules.

Couldn't find anything on this.

 

[Blackcloud6]

This might be reffering to the recent notice to FFL holders that came out in the last 2 or 3 weeks. (Its at home so I don't have it in front of me)

The notice had to do with the "contingant state" rule. It basically said that the rule no longer exists because a non-licensee can buy a long gun out of state if he is present at the sellers palce of business or residence when he receives it, but pistol sales to a non-licensee must still go to an FFL holder in the state of the person's residence. (Don't use this as the rule, look it before doinging anything)

As far as I understand it, the update was just a clarification and reiteration of the rules, nothing changed.

 

[TheeBadOne]

I'll have to look into this too

 

[*8*]

To clarify things, here is a text copy of what the folks at ATF printed.

“CONTIGUOUS STATEâ€
The phrase “contiguous state†no longer has meaning under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), as amended. Nevertheless, it continues to confuse many long-time firearms dealers, especially when residents of other States visit their gun shops. For those who may not be familiar with this phrase, it appeared in the GCA prior to 1986. The “contiguous state†exception allowed FFLs to sell long guns to residents of contiguous states if the purchaser’s State of residence permitted such sale by law and the sale complied with the legal conditions of sale in both States. A State was “contiguous†to another State if it was adjacent to (bordering) that State. For example, Georgia and Alabama are in fact both contiguous to Florida, and the GCA formally recognized this and similar relationships. In 1986, certain amendments to the GCA rendered the phrase “contiguous state†obsolete and without meaning for firearms dealers. Since 1986, licensed firearms dealers have been allowed to sell a long gun over-the-counter to an unlicensed resident of any State, provided (1) the
purchaser is not otherwise prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm under the GCA, and (2) the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in the buyer’s and seller’s States.