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Short list of relevant bills in AZ, for anyone interested.

HB 2411, firearm "safe storage", bad idea.
HB 2458 Katrina NOLA firearm confiscation prohibition, good idea.
HB 2460 Matricular Consular cards NOT a legal form on ID, very good idea!
HB 2462 Any LEO can enforce immigration law. Didn't know we couldn't.
HB 2469 CCW permit holder who "left it at home", goes from misdemeanor to petty offense, a $50 fine. Good idea.
SB 1132, establishes Homeland Security Force, AKA State Guard. Cannot be federalized, by law. Good idea, in my book.

Just an FYI for those who care.

BTW, there IS a registration bill up for looksee...to register beer kegs. I kid you not.
 
Update, new one, even better - HB 2573 reduces CCW without a permit to a petty offense. Our camel, thier tent, moving towards Vermont/Alaska style CCW.
 
Where do you find out about all these and are these likely to pass, or are they like some of the US Congress bills where they get indroduced every year and never make past an idea?

I would join a Homeland Security Force. About time we have a state military. Thats how it was supposed to me. States all would have their own stuff. Then come together if need be, or if push came to shove.... ;)
 
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/

Great resource. Gotta go searching, though.
I think the State Guard, (what they should call it), is a great idea. I couldn't say what the chances for these various billsis, but the Vermont style carry is unlikely. More Demos in office than last year, and it didn't work then. Governor Naplitano doesn't like to have a veto ovveridden, so she'll sign anything passed with a high majority.The other CCWill might get through that way, plus, a lot of our Demos are actually pro gun, or ambivilent, not like New Joisy, or California.
 
Its good to see that some folks get it right

now we just need to import some of you guys up here an take our country back.
 
Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:

Section 1. Title 26, chapter 1, article 2, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 26-128, to read:

START_STATUTE26-128. Homeland security committee; force; administration

A. The homeland security committee is established consisting of three members of the senate who are appointed by the president of the senate, three members of the house of representatives who are appointed by the speaker of the house of representatives and three members who are appointed by the governor, with a preference for honorably discharged veterans.

B. The homeland security force is established under the direction of the committee. The committee shall regulate the membership and organization of the homeland security force.

C. After consideration of federal deployment levels of the national guard, if the governor determines that an emergency exists or that it is necessary to protect lives or property in this state, the governor may request able-bodied citizens of this state who are at least eighteen years of age to volunteer for service in the homeland security force.

D. The homeland security force:

1. Shall be funded by legislative appropriations.

2. Shall not receive compensation, but members are eligible for reimbursement of expenses from the department of emergency and military affairs.

3. Shall have officers with prior military experience who are appointed by the governor pursuant to rules adopted by the homeland security committee.

4. Shall be under direct control of the governor and receive training from the adjutant general.

5. Shall attend required training on not more than one Saturday per month and be subject to the orders of appointed officers. Members of the national guard may assist in training.

6. Shall not be subject to federal active duty.

7. Shall be exempt from the code of military justice but are subject to the laws of this state.

E. Members of the homeland security force shall not discuss their sexual orientation with the media as a topic of an interview. The adjutant general shall expel a member for violation of this subsection unless the governor determines that the violation was unintentional. END_STATUTE

Sec. 2. Appropriation; homeland security force; exemption

A. The sum of $______________ is appropriated from the state general fund in fiscal year 2007-2008 to the governor for administration of the homeland security force.

B. The appropriation made in subsection A of this section is exempt from the provisions of section 35-190, Arizona Revised Statutes, relating to lapsing of appropriations.
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So what is this really going to do? Is this a last minute army? Will there be a reserve of sorts that will be ready at a moments notice, or is this just as a backup so that if the Guard is depoyed, the Governor can call up another guard force? Are we then supposed to be trained while AZ is under duress? Would the training be a day? Two days? A week? A month? Bring your rifles and your guts? Can we bring our rifles? I mean, maybe if I volunteer I can be a member of the "organized" militia and so I can get issued a FA? Preferably an M4 which I could practice on every weekend and would be expected to bring with me when called upon. :D I already like this.
 
sounds interesting.

Take home rifles should be issued to every member for an emergency call up.
 
Arizona already has a provision for an "Arizona State Guard" per the Arizona Revised Statutes 26-174, although it is somewhat different than what is proposed in SB 1132.

The State Guard is pretty much identical to the National Guard and can be established by the Governor when the National Guard has been called up for federal service.
 
I'd love to see AZ get rid of the exception to carrying in any place that serves alcohol for on-premise consumption. I'd really love to see AZ go to a Texas-style law, where they disallow carry in places where 51% or more of receipts are for on-premise consumption, or just remove the exception completely.


Having said that, i'm proud to call Arizona a former home.
 
They need to put militia somewhere in the Homeland security bill:banghead:

Homeland security militia bill. :rolleyes:





That way we can all join and tell D.C and the Dem to @@@@ off.:neener:
 
Lucky you.

Over here in Connecticut, we get to pray for crazy new laws to not be passed. Right now, one New Haven legislator is proposing all sorts of crazy regulation about ammunition sales, reporting stolen firearms, and the like.

Glad to see they got things heading in the irght direction somewhere.
 
QUESTION on HB 2573

What are people's opinions on trying to get the author of that bill to amend it (read: change it a lot!) to be the first "Vermont with training" bill?

"Vermont with training" is so far just theory. In this system, there's no gov't-issued CCW card, background check, etc. There are however wallet-sized laminated "diplomas" from 16-hour CCW training courses.

If you don't have one on you while packing before a cop, you get a "fix it ticket" - in 60 days you'll appear in "traffic court" with either proof you had a diploma, or the new diploma you've just scored :). Either way, good to go, maybe $10 to $20 court fee worst case.

Don't bring the diploma in to hizzonor to look at, costs hit, I dunno, call it $100. Or maybe a bit more, enough to encourage people to take the training.

The whole thing gets sold to the gun-grabbers as a "hey, we'll get more people trained, that's a GOOD thing!" measure.

You'd probably also need a "must inform officer as to carry" provision, don't recall if AZ has that or not yet.

Understand: at least for the next 3 to 6 months, I'm an AZ resident, so I'm not talking about something that won't affect ME.

Thoughts?
 
The bill would already apply to the Arizona Revised Statutes, Title 26 - Military Affairs and Emergency Management, Chapter 1 EMERGENCY AND MILITARY AFFAIRS, Article 2 - Militia.

Also, everyone between 18-45 is already a member of the unorganized militia, unless they fall under the short list of disqualifications.
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Okay, so since I am already "officially" in the militia, what part of the NFA or the FOPA says that I am not allowed to own a post-86 machine gun?
 
OK. Cool. We re-state it the same way in the new bill just to placate edgy committee members.

With that established: do we want to try this? "Vermont with training"? Because this bill is already damned close...and if we're going to get this anywhere, AZ is a candidate. Also, being in the 9th Circuit, the Feds are on record as saying there is no RKBA, therefore we have reason to fear confiscation and don't like the idea of gov't records of gun ownership...there's a strong enough libertarian streak around here for that to carry some weight...
 
One of the restrictions of Arizona's Unorganized Militia :

2. Idiots, lunatics, totally blind persons and persons convicted of infamous crimes.
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Far as I can tell , this is a real law. I like Arizona more & more ...
 
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