New border watch group breaks away from Minutemen

[Desertdog]

David Marino Reports
New border watch group breaks away from Minutemen
http://kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=4422962&ClientType=Printable

Fred Puckett was an active member of the Minuteman Project, but he recently left to form "The Minuteman of One.".

Former members of the Minuteman Project are breaking away to form a new border watch group.

It’s a story Eyewitness News 4 first told you about last year.

We now have exclusive details about their newly-formed border watch group.

Fred Puckett was an active member of the Minuteman Project, but he recently left the group.

Puckett says, “In my opinion, they got to be too materialistic and too hard of supervision.”

Puckett has now formed “The Minuteman of One.” He says the new border watch group is quickly gaining momentum.

With a blog online, a website in the making, and a recruiting video, Puckett believes his group will one day rival the Minuteman Project.

Vince Ely also left the Minuteman Project. He says the Minuteman of One will take a different approach to secure the border.

Ely says, “The coyotes and smugglers know where the other minutemen are going, because they advertise where they’re going to be a week or two ahead.”

The new group will not announce where they will be patrolling, and, unlike the Minuteman Project, they won’t be funded through donations.

“We’re not soliciting for donations. We pay our own way.”

Group organizer Fred Puckett says it’s all about one thing. “We are just a group of people that care for our country and love our country."

Eyewitness News 4 did contact Chris Simcox, president of the Minuteman Project, who says of the new group, “I hope that any other group of citizens who would like to start a border watch operation, would carefully study the standard operating procedure that the Minutemen Defense Corp. uses, and they would model themselves after our operations standards and hold themselves to a high standard.”

Simcox also says he supports any group who wants to assist the Border Patrol and work within the law to help secure the border.

Members of the Minuteman of One will organize this weekend for their first border watch. So far, they claim more than thirty members locally.

 

[Biker]

The more the merrier.
Biker

 

[TexasRifleman]

Those things are bound to happen in large organizations.

After all the publicity, it sort of makes sense for the original Minuteman Project to become a lobbying arm and some other group take over the actual patrolling.

Like Biker says, the more the merrier.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

So the first group named themselves the Minutemen after the the 1774-1775 colonial hand picked or elite militia members.

Now there is a splinter group of "Minuteman of One"? Okay, so the second group is making the colonial connection and connection with the US Army.

Well, at least the new group isn't composed of attention craving glory hounds who desire to have their names in the media and faces on TV and broadcasting their plans that allow the smugglers and coyotes to pick other locations to cross...as noted by Desertdog here as being stupid .... http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=178099&highlight=minutemen

He is correct, announcing your intentions of when and where you will be when trying to stop people doing illegal activities is pretty stupid. Hopefully the new group won't get caught up in the media circus like the old group.

It is just a darned shame that the new group is using Minuteman as part of their name and then combining it with the Army slogan. Given the different philosophies, you would think the new group would want to distance themselves from the old group. Both groups claim to be observers and reporters, not fighters, but when they draw their names from fighting organizations, it is hard to believe they don't want to fight.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Both groups claim to be observers and reporters, not fighters, but when they draw their names from fighting organizations, it is hard to believe they don't want to fight.

I think we all agree that it's only a matter of time......

There will eventually be a shootout I'm sure of it.

 

[Preacherman]

Following on the measurement of time (i.e. "Minute"), if this group has broken away from the "Minutemen", are they going to be known as the "Secondmen"?

 

[Biker]

Following on the measurement of time (i.e. "Minute"), if this group has broken away from the "Minutemen", are they going to be known as the "Secondmen"?

I dunno Preach, but any guy who goes around calling himself a "Secondman" isn't going to be too popular with the ladies.

Biker

 

[seansean]

I found their blog..
http://minutemanofone.blogspot.com/

 

[trapperjohn]

He is correct, announcing your intentions of when and where you will be when trying to stop people doing illegal activities is pretty stupid. Hopefully the new group won't get caught up in the media circus like the old group.

No, it wasn't stupid at all. Remember their stated purpose was to DRAW ATTENTION to the problems we have on the border. In that, they succeeded.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I found their blog..
http://minutemanofone.blogspot.com/

They need to elect a communications officer pretty quick....

and do know harm to anyone.

They are going to have a hard time being taken seriously with stuff like that.

That's just in the first line of the page, in bold in the mission statement.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

I don't know if I would knock on the minutemen too much. I think that they are doing some good. Meybe the secondmen can do the same.

 

[longeyes]

Before this is "settled" there will be a lot of groups resisting the illegal invasion, with different styles and different methodologies. It's an inevitable evolution. We are talking about terrorism and counter-terrorism models. Meanwhile, "Washington" diddles with its "guest worker" sham.

 

[CAnnoneer]

I predict another group will be bounty hunters that will appear the moment some of the harder-pressed counties start paying for "capture and deportation services". Just another type of coyotes, but of inverse polarity.

 

[hksw]

Personally, I see no problem with having one group with high profile and another with low profile.

 

[Navy joe]

Somebody within the groups needs to be un-PC and profile both members and those that appear on TV. I saw a spot on CNN the other day where the "V" word got tossed about, complete with picture of 350 lb goatee wearing white guy with gun. I am sure there are people of that make and model that have a good heart and want to do the right thing on the border, but that image on TV is a sure way to get marginalized. No easy answers, if I was down there I'd have a rifle and anything foreign north of the border with a rifle would be fair game. Unfortunately, if that happens, the rifle disappears and CNN reports angry white man shooting poor refugees, so poor in fact they had to wear mexican army uniforms to stay warm.
Another scenario, a group of Minutemen get waxed by army/smugglers with crew served weapons. Massive anti hispanic xenophobia ensues in the U.S. Not good.

 

[Optical Serenity]

This should actually work very well, the first group gets the attention, and the second group goes out and actually catches people.

 

[longeyes]

I saw a spot on CNN the other day where the "V" word got tossed about, complete with picture of 350 lb goatee wearing white guy with gun. I am sure there are people of that make and model that have a good heart and want to do the right thing on the border, but that image on TV is a sure way to get marginalized.

In the ongoing culture war the aforementioned guy has already been stereotyped and marginalized. That, in itself, is part of the problem. Answer: hit it head on. Let "them" be them. Are we supposed to now screen Minutemen for the right look? Do they have to "look like America?" This is about values and principles, not race, color, creed, physique, or fashion statement.

 

[Desertdog]

I saw a spot on CNN the other day where the "V" word got tossed about, complete with picture of 350 lb goatee wearing white guy with gun.

Do you expect anythig less from the Communist News Network (CNN)?

 

[gunsmith]

I agreed with doublenaught spy again!

man, this is getting serious! I agreed with him once last year as well!

Plus I think that the "army of one" slogan is lame.

I think Simcox advertising where he is going to be is to avoid shoot outs.

Will the new group allow it's members to use long guns?

 

[blackdragon]

Two "branches" make a lot of sense.

This 'battle' is fought in two places. One is on the border; the secondmen with their un-announced locations will server at that one.

But the biggest battle is for the attention of the average american voter. And that battle *will* be fought in the media.

When enough 'avergage' voices speak out, then the politicians will know thet need to act, or be replaced by someone who will -- or at least claim they will

*Everyone* needs to know about this. I bet 90% of the people on the street have no clue about the seriousness of the situation.

"Hopefully the new group won't get caught up in the media circus like the old group."?
Yeah, best the new group does not, but best the original one pushes harder. Gets on more media. Makes a "michael moore hates america" like movie. With an election coming up, this needs to be pushed until it becomes an issue.

 

[Kodiaz]

Ok I'm dumb what is the V word?

 

[Biker]

Ok I'm dumb what is the V word?

Vigilante, as Jorge Bush referred to the Minutemen.
Biker

 

[spartacus2002]

He is correct, announcing your intentions of when and where you will be when trying to stop people doing illegal activities is pretty stupid. Hopefully the new group won't get caught up in the media circus like the old group.

Somebody beat me to it, but it is worth repeating: The media circus was the point of the original group.

 

[seansean]

here's another ca. borderwatch group that seems to have a bit more on the ball...
http://www.borderwatch.us/ca/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

 

[Ryder]

Another scenario, a group of Minutemen get waxed by army/smugglers with crew served weapons. Massive anti hispanic xenophobia ensues in the U.S. Not good.

Not good why? They're acting as a canary in a coal mine. Oh, you mean the backlash against illegals will be a bad thing? Probably so from their point of view. Getting jobs and a place to live will become harder. Think they'd unmigrate? Would Mexico allow them to return?