new colt double action pistols?

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Nope.
A rep at Colt told me a few months ago he's heard nothing new.
Denis
 
The rumor keeps going 'round but I can't see it happening. The amount of hand fitting that made the old revolvers so sweet would push the cost of a gun way over the edge. That and the truth that that kind of craftsmanship on a wide level is seemingly very hard to come by in this century.

VooDoo
 
Colt themselves have hinted that it MAY happen. Even IF it does and thats a BIG IF, the guns will NOT be like the intricate v spring actions of old. The guns would almost certainly have an action much like the anaconda or king cobra and would include the latest in manufacturing simplifications. Things like mim parts and investment castings. The hand fitted actions, and forged parts of the good old days, are simply TOO expensive to manufacture in todays world of tupperware guns.
 
It wouldn't have to be the same old world craftsmanship to make a good gun. Ruger makes a few great guns at a very competative price point. If Colt could come out with a gun the equal of the SP-101 for example, I think it would sell as long as it had the little pony on it.

The problem with Colt is, they have a long history of jumping on the wave a couple years after it has passed by. When alot of states were getting CCH laws passed would have been a good time.
 
Put me down for a King Cobra action with a Python barrel....make it two...one in polished stainless and one in blue. Heck, if the price is right I will take 8, both finishes in the four barrel lengths.
 
Yeah, but Colt seems to do their level best to keep the fact that they make any civilian guns at all Top Secret. Wouldn't want to, you know, sell any or anything.
 
They sell everything they can produce.
Read that twice & think about it. :)
Denis
 
If you take a hard look at the overall handgun market it should be clear that if (big "IF") Colt should introduce a (or some) new handguns designed from a clean sheet of paper, it (or they) are unlikely to be revolvers. The can make larger profits with a polymer-frame pistol, most likely striker fired, and generally in the same ballpart price-wise as those offered by Glock, Smith & Wesson, SIG-Sauer, Beretta, Ruger and Taurus etc.

Because that's where the money is... :scrutiny:
 
If you take a hard look at the overall handgun market it should be clear that if (big "IF") Colt should introduce a (or some) new handguns designed from a clean sheet of paper, it (or they) are unlikely to be revolvers. The can make larger profits with a polymer-frame pistol, most likely striker fired, and generally in the same ballpart price-wise as those offered by Glock, Smith & Wesson, SIG-Sauer, Beretta, Ruger and Taurus etc.

Because that's where the money is... :scrutiny:

Yeah, that worked out so well for them with the All-American 2000 model.

They need to bring back something along the lines of the DS-II and Magnum Carry snubbies.
 
I read an article a few months back about the new/old Colt 1911 being brought back and the author asked about Colt getting back into the DA revolver market. The Colt guy didn't say yes but did dance around the question and said wait and see what's happening at the end of the year and next year.

Well, it was recently announces the commercial end of Colt will again be merged with the military subsidiary of Colt reforming one company again. Who knows how far they will go. Remember, Colt doesn't have a lock on the M16/M4 military market anymore and they have already brought back a few older designs for the civilian market. (Model 1903) You know the old saying, never say never.

From the Colt Site:
For the first time since separation in 2003, a single company will now develop, manufacture and sell firearms under the Colt name for ALL military, law enforcement and individual markets in the United States and throughout the world. Colt operates its manufacturing facilities in Hartford, Connecticut and Kitchener, Ontario.

One Colt.
 
They need to bring back something along the lines of the DS-II and Magnum Carry snubbies

Well it’s this-a-way.

Manufacturers look at things differently then some of they’re customers. From their point of view making and selling guns is supposed to create the maximum possible profits.

At this point they don’t have the tooling to reintroduce the revolvers you mentioned, so they'd have to start from scratch. Given the cost they might go two ways. (1) Bring back the mentioned models, or (2) Use the money to design, develop, tool and manufacturer something entirely new.

The profit margin on polymer pistols (after some expensive tooling has been amortized or written off taxes) is far greater then that made on revolvers because they don’t lend themselves to mold-it-and-go polymer technology. Notice that recent revolvers that have composite synthetics in their innards have very few parts that employ this technology, as compared to say a Glock or S&W M&P line pistol. I am not a fan of these myself, but given the manufacturing cost vs. MSRP they are great for the firearms industry.

So that’s why it’s unlikely that Colt will bring back the snubbies you mentioned. To make them and realize the same level of profit they could get for a similar sized polymer pistol would bring the MSRP on the revolver up to a level where most potential buyers would reject them. This is what killed them off in the first place. What you (and I) like represents a small fraction of the overall market


Yeah, that worked out so well for them with the All-American 2000 model.

Yes it was a turkey, but it wasn’t the kind of pistol I’m proposing. All metal, machined construction is too costly and won’t cut it anymore.
 
If Colt were to do something like re-introduce the Python (for example), my assumption is that they would certainly employ some cost cutting measures, throw in some 'features' to placate the lawyers, and price the gun at about $1,000. Colt collectors would decry the new pythons as inferior (even if they were not). At the end of the day, you would have something different than a Python for about the cost of a 'Real' Python. Just like the S&W classic series, just like the recent Dan Wesson 15-2's. What's the point? Just go buy a Python. There are plenty out there.
 
If Colt sold a new "Python" for $1,000, that would still be a helluva lot cheaper than buying a real Python.
People still buy the new Smith revolvers. Not me, but a lot of other people.
I'd like to see them bring back the DS or the SF-VI.
I handled the SF-VI in the stores, and the very light DA trigger was not a case of gun rag exaggeration. It was very light.
Should have bought one.
 
When Colt came out with the SF-VI I had an opportunity to commend no less then the company President concerning the improved double-action trigger pull. It might have been too improved as the trigger return spring was on the weak side.

Anyway he said, "Thank you, but I don't know much about such things," and suggested I talk to a subordinate he pointed toward. I had a feeling he didn't look beyond the company's balance sheet. :rolleyes:
 
I've had the opportunity to speak with several Colt employees but not the big Kahuna. My SF-VI still has the lightest and smoothest trigger I've ever seen on a snubby or for that matter even on a Python. Sure do with they'd bring THAT one back!
 
The D frames feel like just the right size to me. Doubtless any new Colts would be different internally, but I would like something with a similar look, feel and size. :)
 
Thing is, as revolver buffs, we have to face one crucial fact. Revolver sales are declining. I own a small shop here in Northern VA. Was told by a distributor that S&W won't start ramping up production of their revolvers other than the 642 or 442 in part because they cannot keep up with polymer striker fired M&P demand.
 
Yup. The gun makers are loving the plastic striker fired semi market because they can be made so cheaply. Not so big a profit on revolvers.
 
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