New EAA "Pioneer" 223 Semi-Auto??

[tracer]

I saw one in the "Guns for 2004" in a Gun Mag last night.I had talked to Robinson Arms (Importer of the Vepr) about a year ago and they were trying to clear these for import.In any event this magazine listed EAA as the importer,showing a photo.It is a "conventional" appearing 223/7.62 semi auto rifle,magazine fed with wood stock.It is not a futuristic battle rifle.I was interested a year ago and more interested now.
Anyone know more?
Thanks
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[vanfunk]

Hmmm - there's nothing on the EAA website about it, even in the "what's New" section. A quick Google search didn't turn up anything, either.

Do you remember who makes it or it's country of origin? I love .223 autoloaders, so I'm curious, too. EAA stuff is often very inexpensive but high quality (the Witness line, SAIGA rifles, etc.)
vanfunk

 

[tracer]

This was their response this am:
"all will be posted on our web sight in the near future "

 

[Harry Tuttle]

Vallery Shillin has has Pioneer pix since 1999:
http://club.guns.ru/eng/vepr.html

 

[Correia]

It is made by Molot in Russia.

 

[pbhome71]

It is a nice looking rifle. I want one...

-Pat

 

[Rupestris]

It is a nice looking rifle. I want one...

Ummm... YEAH!

http://www.molot.net/product-e/vpion.php

 

[tracer]

I wonder if they have the RPG receiver.If so,they will be 8-9 lbs,I am afraid.I owned the Vepr 223 and although well made,it was HEAVY!

 

[iamkris]

...with the exception of that 12" sight radius. What's up with that? That thing is screaming for optics.

 

[Harry Tuttle]

I thought Robinson had the import contract with Molot

EAA was the Izhmash importer

hello Nurse!:

http://www.molot.net/product-e/vhunt.php
We designed HUNTER model to meet requirements of European hunters for 100% reliable fast handling and powerful rifle. VEPR HUNTER provides semi automatic firepower with very acceptable accuracy. One-piece stock made of selected Turkish walnut. Rifles available with two variants of front sight. Side fastening of the scope mount is the best way to mount the scope on Kalashnikov based rifle. And, of course, HUNTER based on the same time proven RPK receiver as all the rifles under the VEPR trademark.
*
Available in .308Win and .30-06 Spr. calibers

MOLOT is also making the Super in .223!:

http://www.molot.net/product-e/vs.php

 

[45R]

I wonder how well these compare to the Mini 14 and SU 16. Might be a good rifle for Cali folks.

 

[Correia]

45R, as a long time Vepr owner, and heavy duty user, I would take the Vepr over the Mini any day of the week. Especially since normal capacity magazines are not even a possibility for you guys anymore.

 

[45R]

Is the action an "AK" type?

 

[Gewehr98]

Definitely looks like an AK, doesn't it?

Although I'd be interested in how they redesigned the safety to work under the wood stock, looks like the actuator is by the trigger guard.

 

[Correia]

I've never used the Pioneer, but on the Super Vepr it has been changed over to a push button safety above the trigger guard. Very nice actually.

 

[Kestryll]

If it is an AK type action I think this will end up being another neat gun that we in Cali can't have.
I hope I am wrong cause it looks cool but I think it will get hit under the AK series ban.

 

[JohnKSa]

The Pioneer is supposed to have a no-flex receiver. Don't know what they mean by that. The VEPR rifles all have the RPK style receiver. I don't know if the Pioneer has a stiffer receiver, or if that's what they're talking about.

The VEPR rifles are very nice, but HEAVY.

 

[armoredman]

How much $?

 

[Rupestris]

I hate to drag up an old post but has anyone heard any further details about this rifle? I'm still interested.
Saiga has a rifle on its website called the Saiga 100 that looks alot like it (w/synthetic stock) but has very little info other than that.
Thanks.

 

[MLC]

I wonder if they have the RPG receiver

Somehow I doubt it.
Neat looking rifle though, it would be nice to see them come in.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Check out this thread. All sorts of info on the VEPRs available from EAA and Robinson.

All Veprs have the RPK receiver. Not the RPG receiver.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

I wonder how well these compare to the Mini 14 and SU 16. Might be a good rifle for Cali folks.

it's an AK. ak's are banned here forthechildren.