New EMF 1851 Pepperbox

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Thanks for posting this newly discovered pepper box. It's interesting, but the styling just doesn't look right, at least to me.

Here's a pic of what I think a pepper box should look like, especially the handle/grip.

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The picture of the pepperbox look more like somebody just cobbled together a pic of a navy frame and a lengthened cylinder. The frame even still has the barrel alignment pins visible in the pic.
 
The picture of the pepperbox look more like somebody just cobbled together a pic of a navy frame and a lengthened cylinder. The frame even still has the barrel alignment pins visible in the pic.
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thats because its exactly what its supposed to look like

"This is a modern version of a handgun assembled by a frontier gunsmith in the 1850's or 1860's using miscellaneous parts found in his shop. In doing this, he attached the barrel cluster from a Blunt & Syms "Dragoon" pepperbox to the frame of a Colt revolver. The resulting pistol was a better-balanced piece than the usual pepperbox.. Moreover, this pistol was far better suited for the use of the multi-ball loads, which increased the owner's chance of hitting his target.

In the combination set you get two revolvers in one! Shoot the Pepperbox cluster then when you feel like shooting your 1851 .36 caliber black powder revolver just switch back to your usual barrel and cylinder."
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http://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1851-Pepperbox-c310.htm




i dunno, i think its interesting looking........looks fun to shoot anyways....
 
Not going to angst over not having one of these Colterbox pistols. Woud not ming having one of the pepperboxes like pistured in post #2 at all, if it was a true double action and not a hand turner like some of the last repros out there.

I actually think the new thing looks awfully goofy, like a TV prop from say "The Wild Wild West" I can see that on a '49 baby Dragoon frame for the little mad scientist.

-kBob
 
I'd like to make a frame extension and cylinder pin for it, so I could use a standard Navy barrel with the "pepperbox" cylinder. You could get one hell of a powder charge in that long cylinder. I like it in a way, but it's not a pepperbox. Post 2 looks like my Dad's Allen and Thurber pepperbox. Forget whether it's an 1837 or 1845. I think it's 1845.
Am I the only one who thinks of the Taurus Judge when I see the 51 pepperbox?
 
You could definitely sling some serious lead with it. Looks like you could fit 5 balls in each chamber. Maybe even more.
How would you load it? No loading lever.
Maybe load it like a shotgun? Powder/overpowder wad, shot, overshot card?
Could make a heck of a snake gun. With one of those, I think I'd run out of venomous snakes to kill/eat.
Imagine what a chamber full of #6 shot from that would do to a giant wharf rat.
Load it with #12 and you could use it to take out hornet's nests from close range.
Purely for the excitement, of course. Not that I have anything against the ill-tempered, stinging beasts that insist upon using my front porch eaves as a place to set up shop.
Or even aim it down an active in-ground yellowjacket nest and let one fly.
Then try to figure out where their other entrance/exit tunnel is, before they use you as a pincushion.

Honestly, I'd rather see it made in .44 caliber. I'm a .44 and .45 fan. I can't help it. I like big, heavy lead.
 
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Is there actually an original "cobbled together" parts gun that this is based on? Just curious.
 
Kinda like the .44 cal 51 Navy. Except that I like the 44 cal 51 Navy a LOT better.

I wish someone would make a faithful reproduction of an Allen & Thurber pepperbox.
 
I also like the looks of the 44 cal 51 navy better than the 36 cal version, and better than the 60 army. For some reason, the 60 army cylinder and frame, when combined with the 51 barrel and grip/frame looks great to me.
I may sell my 36 cal Pietta Navy to get a 44.
 
Especially if they made a .44 cal version of it. I'd love to launch 4 or 5 .44 caliber balls with each shot.
 
Was it common practice to load original pepperboxes with more than one ball per barrel? Just wondering - it would give me a new respect for them!
 
OK, here's my question, did they thread the end of the arbor on the outside, or did they drill it out then thread it on the inside? Either way I'd think if you converted it back to a standard 51' you'd have a weak end on the arbor or an extermely loose fit at a the end where you want it to bottom out for accuracy.
 
I thought that people have threaded their arbors to accept an adjustment screw without any complaints or incidents related to weakening it.
 
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I have put an adjustment screw in the end of oner of my short arbors with no ill effects....

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Some one has offered a modern made pepperbox, I think the Hoppe's in the for sale ads. $400 seems a might much to me though.

-kBob

My kid thinks I shood have a tag line, I am thinking "Tag! You're it!"
 
junkman,

Does that actually increase accuracy? Does it allow you to take the gun down and put it back to gether with less loss of POI?POA error? What keeps the allen head screw from gacking out or tightening?

Inquiring minds and all that.

-kBob
 
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