New Giraud case trimmer
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sublimaze41
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Nice video, Thanks. How do you know when you have trimed enough??
Love the way the brass shavings go into 1 container. Does it empty like a pencil sharpner?
Oh yea, how much and how many calibers?
Love the way the brass shavings go into 1 container. Does it empty like a pencil sharpner?
Oh yea, how much and how many calibers?
BillMcCall
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tmorg
Do the instructions say anything about using a lubricant before trimming?
Bill
Do the instructions say anything about using a lubricant before trimming?
Bill
Of course you don’t have to lubricate the case to trim, but it does have to be sized.
Having now trimmed a number of five gallon buckets of brass in the Giraud, I can say it is an excellent trimmer. It might take a second to trim, deburr, and bevel a case, but that is about it. For cases that only need a couple of thousandth’s removed, the trim time is as fast as you can stick them in, and give the case a half turn.
Mr. Giraud supplies the cutter with a carbide blade of his own design. I also have the Bob Jones carbide cutter blade. The Giraud Blade provides an internal case mouth chamfer of 15 degrees and an external case mouth of 45 degrees (per Doug Giraud). The Bob Jones does not cut as steep an internal slope as does the Giraud, and I find that I prefer the steeper slope. The reason is that it creates less resistance when seating a bullet.
This is an advantage to me, because I dump powder and seat the bullet on a Dillion 550B. Every so often a bullet will tip and jam into the bottom edge of my seating die. If I can detect this in time I can stop and can clear the condition before the case gets ruined. However, when the bullet requires significant effort to seat, it is hard to differentiate on the seating stroke between a jammed bullet and normal seating. The end result is usually a crumpled case neck.
I like having an "On-Off" Switch..
The most important thing I found that made the Giraud a speed champ was that you can cut in a horizontal position, like the Gracey, or a vertical (upright) position. With the Giraud in a vertical position, I can put the machine upright in front of me, and trim cases with both hands. In the horizontal position I can feed cases to one hand, but only one hand can hold the case in the trimmer. This little difference significantly reduces hand fatigue and increases the effective trim rate. And one other thing, with the machine pointing up, the brass chips fall down out of the shell holder.
My Giraud trimmer has a quick shell holder change feature. I can change out the shell holder from from 30-06 to 308 without having to readjust for depth. Mr. Giraud has made an improvement to his trimmer, after I purchased mine, but it allows quick change of the cutter head. Currently I can only trim cartridges of the same caliber without adjusting the cutter head. This adjustment is perhaps the most time consuming as I try to get an chamfer angle I like and still deburr the outside of the brass. However Mr. Giraud has made a removable cutter head which is a better idea and would allow a very quick change over from .223 to .308 for example. The removable cutter head option is a great idea, but it is not cheap.
I believe that Mr. Giraud has built a better "mouse trap", with improvements over existing trimmers.
Having now trimmed a number of five gallon buckets of brass in the Giraud, I can say it is an excellent trimmer. It might take a second to trim, deburr, and bevel a case, but that is about it. For cases that only need a couple of thousandth’s removed, the trim time is as fast as you can stick them in, and give the case a half turn.
Mr. Giraud supplies the cutter with a carbide blade of his own design. I also have the Bob Jones carbide cutter blade. The Giraud Blade provides an internal case mouth chamfer of 15 degrees and an external case mouth of 45 degrees (per Doug Giraud). The Bob Jones does not cut as steep an internal slope as does the Giraud, and I find that I prefer the steeper slope. The reason is that it creates less resistance when seating a bullet.
This is an advantage to me, because I dump powder and seat the bullet on a Dillion 550B. Every so often a bullet will tip and jam into the bottom edge of my seating die. If I can detect this in time I can stop and can clear the condition before the case gets ruined. However, when the bullet requires significant effort to seat, it is hard to differentiate on the seating stroke between a jammed bullet and normal seating. The end result is usually a crumpled case neck.
I like having an "On-Off" Switch..
The most important thing I found that made the Giraud a speed champ was that you can cut in a horizontal position, like the Gracey, or a vertical (upright) position. With the Giraud in a vertical position, I can put the machine upright in front of me, and trim cases with both hands. In the horizontal position I can feed cases to one hand, but only one hand can hold the case in the trimmer. This little difference significantly reduces hand fatigue and increases the effective trim rate. And one other thing, with the machine pointing up, the brass chips fall down out of the shell holder.
My Giraud trimmer has a quick shell holder change feature. I can change out the shell holder from from 30-06 to 308 without having to readjust for depth. Mr. Giraud has made an improvement to his trimmer, after I purchased mine, but it allows quick change of the cutter head. Currently I can only trim cartridges of the same caliber without adjusting the cutter head. This adjustment is perhaps the most time consuming as I try to get an chamfer angle I like and still deburr the outside of the brass. However Mr. Giraud has made a removable cutter head which is a better idea and would allow a very quick change over from .223 to .308 for example. The removable cutter head option is a great idea, but it is not cheap.
I believe that Mr. Giraud has built a better "mouse trap", with improvements over existing trimmers.
snuffy
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It'd be nice if I could see the video well enough to do an evaluation of it's operation.If you ever consider doing another video, perhaps some light on the subject would help?
What controls the length? Why the need to twist the shell at the end? What does the finish on the shell mouth look like? Is it ragged? The sound it makes sounds like it is tearing the brass off the case mouth, it don't "sound like" it would be very smooth.
What controls the length? Why the need to twist the shell at the end? What does the finish on the shell mouth look like? Is it ragged? The sound it makes sounds like it is tearing the brass off the case mouth, it don't "sound like" it would be very smooth.
ocabj
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Independent Review with video
Youtube link to video included in above review
Manual (PDF) - Explains the usage
Youtube link to video included in above review
Manual (PDF) - Explains the usage
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