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New Gun Company Advertisement Compares Obama to Hitler, Stalin

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USAAmmo isn't really a gun company. It's a US company owned by military veterans that manufactures ammo. I guess the term is kinda loose, but when I think of 'gun company' I think of manufacturers (i.e. Colt, Ruger, Bushmaster, etc.).

Either way, more power to them gun control is backwards logic to the theory of civil society.
 
Here are my thoughts:

It wouldn't surprise me if this thread is about to take a trip to "closureville" soon.

That said, I'll say this:

To make a factual nitpick, most of Hitler's gun control policy was simply a continuation of earlier restrictions put in place before he assumed power. The rest of the tyrants depicted certainly did quite the job of disarming their people, with the expected horrible results.
Propagandish stuff like this makes me wince, but that's what you do, whether a lefty or righty - you imply that your opponent will go to some sort of extreme measure to get the people's attention.

I doubt that there is a grand plan in the Obama White House to take every gun, nationalize all private property, and create gulags for dissidents.

What I don't doubt is that Obama is clueless about the culture of gun ownership, hunting, shooting and self-defense. He probably believes the typical liberal lie that if we eliminate the private ownership of handguns and "assault rifles" the streets would be safer, but I don't think he's particularly interested in taking away what most would consider "traditional hunting arms."

I didn't vote for the guy, and I won't vote for the guy. I'm not an Obama apologist by any means, but I find extreme politicking distasteful and I think we're all smarter than this.
 
i didnt post this to take or support any political agenda, and actually i agree with you totally, I simply thought it is a national headline about a subject we seem to spend a lot of time talking about on THR and it my have some relevancy.
 
Loweunit:

Fair enough. I was sharing my thoughts, too. Hey look - it's interesting to "monitor" what both sides are doing in terms of publicizing their cause. What I hear a lot in the pro-RKBA community is that "our arguments are logic-based, theirs are emotion-based."

Perhaps it is time for us to start using some of that, while not giving up on our rational arguments.

For some classy examples of pro-RKBA postering, check out the stuff Oleg Volk does.
 
Thanks for the heads up...ive read a lot of Volks stuff....in a way i find a advertisement like this to be a barometer of the attitude of the RKBA community...interesting stuff to think about.
 
Let's see, Obama's Attorney General personally approves an illegal plan to put military style rifles into the hands of criminals, to be used as an excuse for further unconstitutional gun control. It is likely that Obama knew of this scheme as well, in fact, he probably approved it too, even if there is at the moment no evidence. Hitler used the Reichstag fire as an excuse to clamp down on his enemies. What would you call this Operation Fast and Furious scheme?

Comparing your political opponent to Hitler has been made a joke on internet boards (see "Godwin"ing your opponent). For those who look at the facts, though, Obama's behavior IS much more like Hitler's than most other U.S. presidents. The ad may be extreme but it is spot-on accurate. *I* would hope that someone who's "better than that" wouldn't be too foolish to actually look at the facts. Your premise that no U.S. president could be anything like Hitler is not correct.
 
My only problem with the ad is that they didn't take the time to make sure the pictures were accurate. If they had they wouldn't have used a picture of Forrest Whitaker playing Idi Amin in The Last King of Scotland.
 
I believe it nonsense and they won't get a dime of my money. Looking for every excuse you can to demonize and present somebody you disagree with in the worse possible light is childish but unfortunately common place.

I completely disagree with gun control but i also live in reality. If gun confiscation must lead to mass murder what is france, england, australia, etc. waiting for? These kind of ads do nothing but make gun rights believers look like irrational bafoons. The countries where this happened had wide scale turmoil long before gun control.

Using divisive political views to sell any product is even more dispicable. Which is why Spikes Tactical will never see another cent of mine after sending me there "I'll see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade" stickers. Its funny that a company that loves to talk about the constitution would hold such a view.

My only problem with the ad is that they didn't take the time to make sure the pictures were accurate. If they had they wouldn't have used a picture of Forrest Whitaker playing Idi Amin in The Last King of Scotland.
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Can't say i'm surprised these jokers get their history from Hollywood.
 
I think USA Ammo has bigger things to worry about than a controversial marketing campaign. They need to get their quality control under wrap. Lot of problems surfacing lately.
 
"It can't happen here!"

xsquidgator:
Let's see, Obama's Attorney General personally approves an illegal plan to put military style rifles into the hands of criminals, to be used as an excuse for further unconstitutional gun control. It is likely that Obama knew of this scheme as well, in fact, he probably approved it too, even if there is at the moment no evidence. Hitler used the Reichstag fire as an excuse to clamp down on his enemies. What would you call this Operation Fast and Furious scheme?

Comparing your political opponent to Hitler has been made a joke on internet boards (see "Godwin"ing your opponent). For those who look at the facts, though, Obama's behavior IS much more like Hitler's than most other U.S. presidents. The ad may be extreme but it is spot-on accurate. *I* would hope that someone who's "better than that" wouldn't be too foolish to actually look at the facts. Your premise that no U.S. president could be anything like Hitler is not correct.
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Oh My! You have studied far more history than has been taught in U.S. schools for some time, and have a greater grasp of it than the current administration would like you to have, or than is permitted to be expressed here!

But, if (God forbid!) he gets a second term, BHO will resemble Stalin far more than Hitler. For those who are paying attention, in his efforts to make everyone dependent on the Gov't, he's already following the Soviet model.
 
Speaking of Hitler and Stalin, which U.S. president put Americans in camps during WWII?

Here's a hint, it wasn't Obama.

Hyperbole. The ammo company might believe their own ads, but it's still hyperbole. Overstatement. Exaggeration.

Heck, Abe Lincoln suspended habeas corpus in the entire country in 1861. In 1866, after the war, the Supreme Court officially restored habeas corpus. President Bush suspended it in 2006, but only for enemy combatants, not the entire country.
 
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Have y'all ever studied U.S. political cartoons & newspaper editorials from history prior to the end of WWII? The farther back you go, the more BRUTAL they get. We have currently become, as a society, so sensitive & political correct that we WON'T (can't?) publicly take off the gloves & say EXACTLY what we think about ANYTHING! I WANT different points of view, I WANT genuine public debate, I want political opponents to honestly ARGUE about what they believe & why. I MUCH prefer that sort of brazen openness to the "say one thing & secretly do another" crap that seems to be so common in our country. I say, let any company (and any person) have any opinion they want. The Free Market will determine how many folks agree with them. :cool:
 
I don't see the downside for this ammo company to honestly state what they believe. People who would likely disagree with them largely don't buy their product in the first place. People inclined to agree with them will probably go out of their way to buy a box or two of their ammo to give them a try just based on their ad.
 
Typical paranoia designed to boost sales. You see this sort of thing at gun shows all the time. You'd think people would have learned from the "Obama gun scare" of 2008. (BTW, the same thing is used by the NRA and other pro-gun organizations to boost contributions.)
 
1) It's factually correct.
2) anyone who has read/listened to John Lott (More Guns, Less crime) will recall his recollection of discussions with Obama when the two were adjunct professors. He flat-out states that Obama is about as anti-gun as you can get.
3) Fast and Furious is pretty damning and anyone capable of rationale thought can draw reasonable inferences which pretty-well speak for themselves.
4) Obama himself has stated that he's working "under the radar" on gun control.

But - nothing to see here, there's a new episode of Jersey Shore playing. "Oh look....shiny penny".
 
The current Clown-In-Chief might not be comparable to Pol Pot, Hitler, et al, but that doesn't make him any less reprehensible. He's still an evil man who represents the Party of Evil.

I will disagree on comparing him with Hitler on one point. Hitler could speak without having to read from a teleprompter.
 
Typical paranoia designed to boost sales. You see this sort of thing at gun shows all the time. You'd think people would have learned from the "Obama gun scare" of 2008. (BTW, the same thing is used by the NRA and other pro-gun organizations to boost contributions.)
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QFT.

It was classless and offensive when liberals likened Pres Bush to Hitler. It doesn't make it any better when we do that to Obama.
Obama has signed more pro gun legislation than Bush or Reagan.
 
I think USA Ammo has bigger things to worry about than a controversial marketing campaign. They need to get their quality control under wrap. Lot of problems surfacing lately.
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Is this the outfit that allowed a batch of .223 to go out that was loaded with pistol powder?
 
I WANT different points of view, I WANT genuine public debate, I want political opponents to honestly ARGUE about what they believe & why. I MUCH prefer that sort of brazen openness to the "say one thing & secretly do another" crap that seems to be so common in our country.
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Are you seriously calling this ad "genuine public debate"?


I say, let any company (and any person) have any opinion they want. The Free Market will determine how many folks agree with them.
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Umm, okay. They are obviously able to hold and express the opinion they want and others are obviously able to hold and express opinons of their opinions. Criticizing what they say is NOT the same as infringing on their right to say it.
 
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