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Today I got a 16ga model 12, now I need some cartridges. What is the current thinking in shotgun she'll reloading? Last time I read about it, it seemed like it was little to no cost savings for the 12&20 bit a no brainer for the subgauges, something around half I believe? Thanks folks
 
Nice choice in gun. We need some pics! Reloading will save some money (not much) if you will be shooting a lot, but in 16ga will give you a lot more choices of loads than what you will find on the shelf locally. For factory loads, RIO makes some reasonably priced target and field loads.
 
So at over 100 a flat (maybe I'm looking in the wrong places), there isn't much to save? Dang I was hoping I could reload for half that, I have the gear already just need components. Always wanted one of these, came up for sale locally and couldn't help myself.
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I have one just like it. (It's my third one...) That one is in beautiful shape! You'll never find a nicer bird gun, IMHO....
 
in the stores in this neck of the woods, there is doodly squat for 16ga. If I want to shoot my 16, I gotta reload. My reloading cost is less than shelf price, that is when I can find it on the shelf.
 
It's in imp cylinder too, that's what thru me over the edge. That and it's in good shape. There are a few spots where someone touched it up with some blue, and did a pretty decent job, u have to look at it like you're trying to buy it to even notice. Can't wait to bust a grouse in the ass with this thing, trying to line up a hunt Friday. What would value a gun like this at?
 
That is a beautiful gun, and it is in great shape.I hunted with one just like it ( 16 Ga model 12 ) for 25 years after my Dad had hunted with it for 20 years before me ( he bought it used). It is a great gun. Winchester made a lot of them over the years, so they are not particularly rare or valuable, but you should never have a problem getting back what you paid for it.
As far as reloading, shot right now is pretty high, & will cost you $3.50 or so per box of 25. Primers another $.50-$1 depending on what quantity you buy them in, wads and hulls only a few cents apiece, so you can reload for $4-$5 a box. Once you know what you are doing, your shells will be as good as any premium ammo, and you can tailor your ammunition to your particular uses and your gun, so for me it is definitely worth the effort and cost.
 
There is plenty of 16 gauge around where I live, but it costs more than 12 or 20.

I shoot and reload about 15,000 rounds per year. My cost for 12 and 20 gauge runs me about $3.50 per box with reclaimed lead and about $4.75 with new Lawrence magnum shot.
You need to buy in bulk to max the savings - that is primers by the sleeve of 5,000, wads by the case of 5,000, powder in 8# jugs (two per case), and shot by hundredweight, or better still, by the ton.

Going in on group buys can soften the cost factor.
 
reloading is the way to go for odd or small guages, used mec presses are out there for good prices.i would get a 650 at the least and a 9000 is better. the only difference between these two is the 9000 is a full progressive and the 650 shell plate is hand rotated. with either you can load a box(25) in under 10 minutes easy. right not primers,powder,lead and wads are rather high,so if you can,t get a good deal on those supplies or are not going to shoot that much, buying loaded ammo may be for you. factory 12ga bulk packs at walmart cost about 98.00 per 350 shells, the same 350 rounds loaded at normal sporting goods store prices for supplies around here is about 92.00. not much of a savings, but if you shop around for your supplies you can knock the reloaded prices down quite a bit. in odd or small guages the cost for the reloaded ammo realy falls, i just bought a 9000g in 28ga and can,t wait to set it up. i now run a 9000g,a 9000gh and a old texan in 12ga. eastbank.
 
The 650 does not resize. The Grabber would be the better choice as it also resizes. I prefer the Grabber to the 9000, because when an oops happens, it is nice to not have things moving automatically...
 
yes i agree about the grabber, i don,t normaly run the 9000g that fast,but you do have to watch it. i like to watch the primer drop closley and i have gotten used to a pace where i can keep up with it and any gliches that may come up. here,s one you may enjoy,a stink bug crawed into a case and the deprimer sizer station(1) sqished it and at station 2 the bug jammed up the powder drop, made a little mess and now all my empties go in a trash bag and a tie down added to close the bag. eastbank..
 
One thing with a MEC, any of them, that helps with spills is to use a cookie sheet or a deeper steam table tray to place under the machine. Keeps that shot from going everywhere... ;)
 
i could never go back to a 600 mec or any press i had to handle every case 5 times to get a loaded round. eastbank.
 
My reloading bench has a lip all around it, so any shot that spills stays on the table, kind of like, what happens here in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas.:D Incidentally I've got a model 12 in 12ga. that was produced in 1931, it sure is a sweet gun, mine is in modified choke. I noted the stock on yours is fairly dark, could be just the way the light hit yours in pictures.

The bluing on mine is all intact however near the receiver it has turned a dark purplish color, kind of strange, but a fine functioning firearm if I do say so myself.

As far as reloading goes I reload for 12, 20, and 410 all on Mecs, the cheapest I've reloaded is due to my affiliation with a trap and skeet range, as we buy in large quantities, lead, primers, and wads, from the same place as we get our targets from, along with what oneounce stated.
 
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