New Hi Point Owner
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I'm with the crowd that says anything is better than nothing. And I have a good friend of mine that has a Hi Point and let me tell you.... It shoots. I would put him and his Hi Point up against ANY pistol shooter. Not for speed, just accuracy without optics. He may not win every match. But I guarantee you when it's all said and done, he and his pistol will have earned respect.
When he got it I came over to his house. He was in the back yard shooting pop cans at 25 paces. He missed once in 3 mags. My guestimation was a shot about every 2 seconds. Then he started shooting a bag of concrete at 50 Paces. No misses, no jams. I learned a valuable lesson that day.
Would I own one? No. I can't shoot them worth a darn.
Would I knock anyone that has one that functions properly? No
Would I be dead if I was a BG that broke into my friends house? Yes.
When he got it I came over to his house. He was in the back yard shooting pop cans at 25 paces. He missed once in 3 mags. My guestimation was a shot about every 2 seconds. Then he started shooting a bag of concrete at 50 Paces. No misses, no jams. I learned a valuable lesson that day.
Would I own one? No. I can't shoot them worth a darn.
Would I knock anyone that has one that functions properly? No
Would I be dead if I was a BG that broke into my friends house? Yes.
DeadFlies
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For starters, it's Hi-Point, not High Point. I can see you've really done your research. Ever owned, fired or even held one?
But to answer your question, Yes, of course. I have put 600 rounds through it without a single malfunction of any kind. It's my HD gun and I DO in fact trust my life to that $150 HP that never malfunctions.
Why wouldn't I?
It's not expensive enough? Not enough tacticool junk to hang of of it? Ugly? Cousin's Brother's best-friend had one that blew up into a million pieces in his face the first time he tried to fire it? Afraid the Mall Ninjas will laugh at me?
Thrift aint sexy. But it gets the job done.
wgaynor
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Yes
MedWheeler
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I, too, would trust my life and those of my family members to one, once I had tested it, and myself with it (as with any newly-acquired gun.)
People that state that a "sub-xxx$" gun cannot be trusted to defend life and limb are simply beating the tired "what's your life worth?" cliche.
So, you use an $800 gun for home defense. Is that what your life is worth? Fifteen hundred? Three grand?
I just can't figure out the whole "what's your life worth?" algorithm.
Incidentally, many of those people are showing up at the gun shows and ranges in some rather questionable vehicles, not in the latest (mostly imported) high-end vehicles that are better known for their safety features.
People that state that a "sub-xxx$" gun cannot be trusted to defend life and limb are simply beating the tired "what's your life worth?" cliche.
So, you use an $800 gun for home defense. Is that what your life is worth? Fifteen hundred? Three grand?
I just can't figure out the whole "what's your life worth?" algorithm.
Incidentally, many of those people are showing up at the gun shows and ranges in some rather questionable vehicles, not in the latest (mostly imported) high-end vehicles that are better known for their safety features.
Mooseman
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Hi-Points may be crude but they tend to be reliable, accurate and reasonably durable. I bought one of the 45s a few years ago and I wouldn't part with it for the price I bought it for. That said there are some downsides to the Hi-Point.
They seem to need more magazine tweaking than average, just my opinion from what I've read elsewhere. I haven't personally had any problems.
Aftermarket support is poor and for some odd reason they use a non standard rail.
The magazine capacity/grip width isn't great and the unmodified grip is a little slick.
The recoil feel is kinda odd because of the really heavy slide.
Even with these things in mind it's a lot of gun for the price. If I see a good deal on a used 9 or 40 I'd snap it up without hesitation.
and yes I'd trust my life to it even if it's not a primary carry choice for me.
They seem to need more magazine tweaking than average, just my opinion from what I've read elsewhere. I haven't personally had any problems.
Aftermarket support is poor and for some odd reason they use a non standard rail.
The magazine capacity/grip width isn't great and the unmodified grip is a little slick.
The recoil feel is kinda odd because of the really heavy slide.
Even with these things in mind it's a lot of gun for the price. If I see a good deal on a used 9 or 40 I'd snap it up without hesitation.
and yes I'd trust my life to it even if it's not a primary carry choice for me.
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Fishslayer
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Congrats on your new Hi-Point purchase! I bought my 9 mm about 6 years ago and never had a problem unlike 2 of my buddies with me at the gun range who had multiple jams with their Kimbers and had to send them back. I think they said they paid around $1000 for their guns, I paid $110
So glad I didn't waste that money on an expensive gun that I don't use anymore because I can't find ammunition. I've got a few guns but I've gone on to other hobbies now since I can't find any ammo. Still great to have the guns around for personal protection. I do miss plinking especially with my Neos and my M60 22 rifle.
So glad I didn't waste that money on an expensive gun that I don't use anymore because I can't find ammunition. I've got a few guns but I've gone on to other hobbies now since I can't find any ammo. Still great to have the guns around for personal protection. I do miss plinking especially with my Neos and my M60 22 rifle.
Deltaboy1984
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I have had my Hi-point for 5 years and I am happy to have it as my recliner gun . It hits where I aim it.
barnetmill
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Assuming the hi-point versus a glock for home defense: glock will be the first choice. It has to do with which shoots better for me and that is glock. Yes you can use a hi-point, you can also use a nagant revolver, and a lot of other cheaper guns with success. I have both a hi-point in .45 and a nagant. I prefer the G19. G19 was gotten used at $4oo and the hi-point cost me about I think 180 new and was not so cheap. I purchased it out of curiosity.
Gun-owner-not-aficionado
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Recently bought the JHP 45 ACP. In spite of all the anti-hype, it is relatively easy to clean, accurate, and reliable. Qualified for CCW on target half the permitted size, after 100 rounds through this gun, no handgun experience since 2005 when I used 50 rounds in an M9 Beretta to qualify on that, next previous experience qualifying on the M1911 with minimum practice, no prior handgun experience.
Customer service is excellent, completely different from the quality of their online manuals, which are abysmal. I'm thinking of offering my services as a volunteer webmaster just to re-write it for them by way of thanks for being so nice about their service.
Anyone ever try to alter the bottom of the magazine? The gun is huge, but would be manageable as a CCW if the butt wasn't so ungainly as to eliminate the C in CCW.
Customer service is excellent, completely different from the quality of their online manuals, which are abysmal. I'm thinking of offering my services as a volunteer webmaster just to re-write it for them by way of thanks for being so nice about their service.
Anyone ever try to alter the bottom of the magazine? The gun is huge, but would be manageable as a CCW if the butt wasn't so ungainly as to eliminate the C in CCW.
I have 4 Hi-Points. The C9, 45 JCP and the 9mm and 45acp carbines. They are fun guns to shoot and work all the time. I would trust my life to any of them. I go for function not looks (eventhough I do not think they look that bad). They are accurate, most times right out of the box. I have not had to tweek any of the mags for the pistols and even have the 10 rounders for the 9mm, which most say not to use, as they don't work but mine have every time. I will probably get another C9 soon and for the price why not? Plus then it can be a car gun for the other car or just because I like them that much. The only reason I have not gotten the 40 is because I just don't need another caliber right now.
DeadFlies
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No, but you can easily modify 1911 mags to work in the JHP.
The Lone Haranguer
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I paid over six times that for a gun that choked on the second shot fired from it.
Twmaster
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Haters gotta hate. Have you ever actually held or heavens forbid -shot- one?
I own several $1500+ dollar 1911 45's. I've also owned a JHP in 45. While not sexy, not light and not the best finish, the thing went bang every time fired and was plenty accurate.
So to answer your question. Yes. I would trust my life to that $150 gun.
Why trust your life to a cheaply constructed $600 gun when you can save for 8 years and buy a Korth? Why settle for a Korth when you can save up $30,000 and get a full auto for self defense?
Fact is when you buy something, regardless of what it is, there's always going to be at least one guy who knows that his choice is better and you should've spent more money so you could be like him.
Fact is when you buy something, regardless of what it is, there's always going to be at least one guy who knows that his choice is better and you should've spent more money so you could be like him.
W.E.G.
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Wow, another Hi-Point pro's and con's thread.
You know, if you have the chops, you can drive nails with a pipe wrench. If it works for you, who am I to criticize?
I still prefer my 24-ounce hammer.
You know, if you have the chops, you can drive nails with a pipe wrench. If it works for you, who am I to criticize?
I still prefer my 24-ounce hammer.
Twmaster
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That's a really poor analogy.
To those who don't like the highpoint due to perceived reliability or accuracy, would you volunteer to stand in front of one aimed and fired at you from 50 yards? Even if you were paid 10K to do so?
Didn't think so. Just might go bang and find it's mark.
Didn't think so. Just might go bang and find it's mark.
W.E.G.
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We are both entitled to our opinions.
But, being that I actually own a pipewrench that also is intended to be used as a hammer, the analogy is a lot more apropos than you may care to allow.
Just like the Hi-Point, it is very clumsy and ugly.
But, it will get the job done.
g_one
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I just don't get the bashing.
Sure, if I want a BBQ gun or a project to invest money in and show off, I'm going to stay as far away from Hi-Point as I can. In my opinion, they're ugly and bulky and not a gun I would ever carry on my person. But for self defense, or as a range gun, none of those things matter. The grip is decent, it goes boom every time, and at self defense/home defense ranges it sends the bullet right where you aim it. You think just because a 230gr JHP is coming out of a Hi-Point that it's just going to bounce off of the BG? Or that the gun is going to get afraid of him/her and decide not to shoot?
Sure, if I want a BBQ gun or a project to invest money in and show off, I'm going to stay as far away from Hi-Point as I can. In my opinion, they're ugly and bulky and not a gun I would ever carry on my person. But for self defense, or as a range gun, none of those things matter. The grip is decent, it goes boom every time, and at self defense/home defense ranges it sends the bullet right where you aim it. You think just because a 230gr JHP is coming out of a Hi-Point that it's just going to bounce off of the BG? Or that the gun is going to get afraid of him/her and decide not to shoot?
Hi-points work and they are accurate. However, I sold mine because half the time I released the slide, the gun would fire. Hi-Point gave me a new one and it did the same. I since moved on to the S&W sigma. But I do agree that for the money they cannot be beat!
We own 2 hi-points and I have 2 friends that own a hi-point and I only know of one problem with them. None of them like to feed the first round. Once that first round is chambered never any problem with any of them. Simple fact is I think they are the most bang for your buck on the market and I wish my Kahr CW45 would function half as well. Hi-points are too bulky for most carry and my Kahr is nowhere near reliable even though it's well past the break-in point so I revolver carry for now. Heck maybe I'll stick to revolvers for carry who knows.
But trust my life to one? My wife's bedside gun is a C9 and the one time I was in the yard and she was in the kid's bedroom with it I never once worried about her gun.
But trust my life to one? My wife's bedside gun is a C9 and the one time I was in the yard and she was in the kid's bedroom with it I never once worried about her gun.
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