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New neighborhood - neighbor says he's shot and killed intruders!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by leadcounsel, Jul 16, 2011.

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  1. leadcounsel

    leadcounsel member

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    So, I've just moved into a new neighborhood - rather expensive and quiet...

    I was introducing myself to the neighbors and in conversation I asked about the neighborhood. My neighbor stated that he had his house burgled twice about 6 years prior. Said the first time he was cleaned out. I said, "well, if they were robbing my house they'd meet "Mr. 12 gauge." He then said, "Well, the 2nd time they did. Shot and killed all 3 of them!!!" :cool:

    So, first I was surprised at the fact there were burglaries. But it's good to know that 1) it probably sent a strong message, 2) doesn't appear he was prosecuted, 3) good to know you have a guy like that on one side of your property.

    I sorta showed my support for his use of self defense, and expressed interest in hearing the rest of the details if they weren't too personal, over a beer sometime. Looking forward to the rest of the story. Must be very interesting!

    All the questions that could be resolved once and for all. Mossberg vs. Remington!!! Buck vs. Birdshot!!! Etc. :D
     
  2. fallout mike

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    The expensive and quiet neighbourhoods is where they prefer to to do their thing. That's where they really cash out at. It doesn't happen as much though bc its harder for them to get in and out unnoticed. Good for him though if he was telling u the truth. If everyone did that I'd be out of a job.
     
  3. bottom shelf

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    Interesting! Sounds like a story I'd want to verify. Maybe introducing yourself to other neighbors would provide that opportunity.
     
  4. ichiban

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    Yeah, people that volunteer that kind of information are usually trying to impress you with a fairytale. As someone once said: "Trust but verify." Do a search of the local paper's website for his name or stories of burglars being shot.

    If you are concerned about burglaries, get a dog. They are a lot less of a hassle than dealing with a SD shooting in your home.
     
  5. hso

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    Check the news paper archive before having that beer.
     
  6. Sam1911

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    Yup. A homeowner shooting and killing three home intruders would make the papers almost anywhere in the US. Go read up.

    People say some odd things sometimes. Trust, but verify. ;)
     
  7. Vonderek

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    Sounds like false bravado to me. And Mr. 12 Gauge is useless if your home is hit while you are not there...most burglaries in the U.S. are cold burglaries because thieves don't want to get shot. Make sure your home is hardened as much as possible (alarms, lights, locks, dogs, etc.) as your firearms will only be effective in a hot burglary or home invasion scenario.
     
  8. The Bushmaster

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    Sounds like a "braggert" to me...Research needed here.

    If it pans out to be true I'd still be a bit leary of him...
     
  9. Mike J

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    Depending on where you are at if the incident made the paper it might not have his name in the article. I know most articles I see about someone defending their home they do not give the exact location or the name of the defender unless the person chooses to talk the press about the incident. I actually like that.

    Although I would probably be somewhat skeptical I would not voice it. Many years ago I had a fellow tell me he had "held off" the SWAT team for a couple of hours with a .22 rifle. I just nodded & listened although I doubted him. Several years later I met another fellow that told me. "You know _______ . I was his neighbor for years. I still remember when the SWAT team came out for him. They climbed up on my roof with guns pointed at his house.
     
  10. Ole Coot

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    That's one story I would check out for sure. Sounds a little odd he would share so much so quickly. Check before you become "friends"
     
  11. Deltaboy

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    Check the papers and see if he just blowing smoke.
     
  12. David E

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    From the OP's rendition of the conversation, the neighbor simply pointed out that six yrs ago, his house was burglarized. Presumably, a rare thing in the neighborhood.

    Then the OP was the one who brazenly remarked, "if they had done that to MY house......"

    This prompted the neighbor to simply recount what he actually did.

    Personally, I'd be more leery of a macho-sounding neighbor ("here's what _I_ would've done...") than someone recounting actual events when the topic was brought up.
     
  13. kd7nqb

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    Without a little research I would be mighty suspicious actually the part that gets me is that there were 3 and all were fatalities. Seems like by the time you engage the second intruder the third one would be high tailing it out of there. But stranger things have happened.
     
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    In my experience -- the guy I'd worry about in your neighborhood is the one you were talking to....

    Many years ago as a very young cop I went to an older lady's house about a neighbor dispute. She was a lovely lady who had a complaint about her neighbor's dog peeing on her rosebushes and casually said that the next time it occurred she'd shoot the dog and maybe the neighbor.... I was being as diplomatic as possible and downplayed that course of action so that I could leave and make contact with her neighbor. It was as I was leaving that I saw the little .22 rifle in the corner behind the front door..... That situation never got out of hand but it did stay with me.


    Lots of years later (older and hopefully wiser...) I'd learned to really listen to what folks say (and what it might say about them...). It kept me out of a few bad situations. There are certainly situations when burglars need to be on the wrong end of serious consequences - most that I've known would kill themselves trying to get away from an armed homeowner... If that incident actually occurred I'd sure like to talk with whoever handled it. It would be very nice to know that, if a shooting occurred, the owner acted, not only properly, but took the only course open to him. What I'd really need to know is whether it didn't occur... or if it did, things were very questionable. Lots of that sort of stuff down here in south Florida, unfortunately.
     
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    BS detector coming online.
    I'm not saying he's lying, but fatally shooting three people is going to attract some measure of media coverage. Heck any SD event where a gun is used generally attracts media exploitation. Should be easily verified.
    He was speaking of humans and not four footed intruders?
     
  16. FourTeeFive

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    Let us know if you dig up some info on this. I'm sure we're all curious....
     
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    Leadcouncil, you have been here for 5 years, read thousands of threads and made thousands of posts and you were surprised to find that your new high end neighborhood isn't perfectly safe from crime? Really?

    Several have said to check the papers to verify his story. I take it that you didn't do a crime background check before moving in. That is a shame. Information is available online for most areas and many cities and-or counties have detailed map listings. FYI for your next moves.
     
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    "If it pans out to be true I'd still be a bit leary of him..." :confused:
    It would be nice to know the whole story, but a bit premature to cast judgement.
     
  19. GEM

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    Not a good idea to share such with Mr. Neighbor.

    What if he said: Oh, my. You have guns and would kill someone. I'd rather call the police! I tried to move to a nice place, not one with trigger happy vigilantes!!

    Then, when you do the Joe Horn - he tells the investigating folk - Well, he's nuts. He said he would blam, blam, blah, blah! I was really scared of him!
     
  20. S.W.G.

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    I think GEM is right.

    Imagine if you nail one of those novelty 'Trespassers will be shot, Survivors will be shot again' signs to your fence, then a few years down the road you ventilate some goblin who is busting through your door.

    The prosecution could screech about 'premeditation' and how you're a crazy militia member just itchin' to kill a minority.
     
  21. Zach S

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    Yeah, I wish I had a nickle for every special ops guy I met...
     
  22. jsimmons

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    I have dogs and proximity alarms. That will give me time to retrieve a suitable weapon. :)
     
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    If that story is not verifiable - I would steer clear of that neighbor !.
     
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    Or guys wearing SEAL t-shirts, hats, etc.
     
  25. philpost

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    Whether it's true or not, anyone who says they shot and killed 3 intruders AND who was so blase about it as to share it with someone upon their first meeting seems to have issues.
     
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