New P22--won't extract when hand cycled; thoughts or advice?

[Chairman]

I have a brand-new P22 that won't extract consistently when I hand-cycle it (successfully extracts maybe 1 of 15). I haven't fired the gun yet and was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experinece.

I've tried Federal, Winchester, and Aquila ammo with comparable results; I also checked about 5 times to make sure everything was nice and clean around the extractor.

My first thought was ammo, so I am going to pick up some mini-mags tomorrow (seems they work well for for other folks).

Other thoughts:
-Maybe it will extract when actually fired? (anyone want to try hand cycling a few rounds and tell me how it goes?)
-Maybe the extractor spring is weak?
-??

Other stuff: the gun is a 2003 model (AD date code), S&W marked, mags have the "A" suffix and feed fine.

Any thoughts or advice on this would be appreciated; should I talk to the shop before I fire it, or take it to the range and then deal with Walrep and/or the local shop?

 

[WhoKnowsWho]

Take it to the range first, different things happen when actually firing.

I never loaded live or dead rounds into my wife's P22 at home, so I am not sure if it does it too.

 

[mete]

It should extract live rounds but as a new gun fire it a while to break it in. It may be a rough chamber, a burr, weak spring etc. After a few hundred shots if it still doesn't extract see a gunsmith.

 

[Matthew_Q]

Some tight chambered .22s will not extract manually. I had a nice tight chambered barrel on my 10/22 that would not manually eject most of the time. Just be careful, and DON'T chamber a round unless you're on a range and you are ready to fire the weapon.

 

[Chairman]

Thanks for the advice guys, I appreciate the input.

The chamber is not particularly tight--the rounds will come out easily--but the extractor just doesn't seem to get ahold of the casing well enough. I'm going out tomorrow to see how she works.

 

[ksnecktieman]

I think what you are describing is normal for a blowback type of pistol. The empty casing is not pulled from the chamber, it is actually pushing the slide to the rear. I do not have a P22 right now, so I just looked at my beretta tomcat .32. It is a blowback type of atcion, and it does not even have an extractor. If you have one it is probably meant as an ejector, instead of extractor, to cause the empty to flip out, when it clears the barrel instead of pulling the empty out.

 

[Chairman]

Interesting thought; seems to make sense. This P22 is my first rimfire pistol; all my prior pistol experience is in centerfire calibers with Sigs.

Thanks.

 

[pinched_L0af]

The P22 has an extractor and ejector. Mine fails to extract when I hand cycle it also; but it works fine during firing. Hold the extractor in with your thumb when you hand cycle it and it helps with extraction.

 

[RecoilRob]

I just ran a magfull of CCI Velocitor through my P22 and they ejected OK. Muzzle down, they left the gun by only 6 or 8 inches or so. You will be fine when you shoot as the extractor is only really needed to remove the unfired rounds. Also, the waxy lead bullets could be dragging enough to resist consistant ejection. Should shoot fine and you WILL like the gun!

 

[NEtracker]

I have an AC code P22. Yours should be fine at the Range.
I suggest you break it in with the Mini-Mags. They were the least trouble free ammo from the start with mine in Sept. '02. Velocitors and Stingers work all the time also, but cost $.
After break-in with HV stuff, you'll find that the P22 will likely take standard stuff, CCI Stds, CCI Greentag, other target lead fodder.
Also, try and keep the P22 slide, firing pin, & ramp area clean to minimize issues.

 

[Chairman]

Thanks for answering all the newb questions here--prompted me to learn a lot more about blowback pistol design.