New production S&W M10

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This gun has been in continuous production in one form or another since 1899 and is one of a handful of blued pistols in S&W's 2005 product line. Yup, they're still making the Model 10. The current production version reflects the trends toward CNC machining, MIM parts, and that universally loved internal lock but is largely the same gun as always.

With used blued,pre-lock Smiths still plentiful, does anyone actually have a new Model 10? I am just curious how it stacks up compared to the older versions. If you can get past the new-fangled changes, does the new-production gun still deliver that wholesome k-frame goodness?
 
I have a Model 10 that I purchased "like new in box" a little more than a year ago. My impression was that it might have had one box of ammo through it. It was made in 2001 and thus lacks the infamous lock, but has the frame mounted firing pin and MIM hammer and trigger. The polish of the metal and quality of blueing is excellent. I shoot this revolver exclusively DA and have noticed a steady improvement in the trigger pull over the approximately 1200 rounds I've put through it. The trigger pull seems a bit heavier than one of my older guns and there seems to be a bit of stacking just before release. The gun has gone bang everytime I've pulled the trigger. On the assumption that a 2005 Model 10 is built as well as my 2001 Model 10 and you aren't put off by the lock I feel no hesitation in recommending one. Hopefully my 2001 M10 will develop a trigger as nice as some of my older K frames.

K frames are still being made in 38 special and .22 caliber. It's the .357 K frames that were discontinued.
 
I bought a new 2" 10-11, with MIM parts and frame mounted fp, two years ago from a closeout distributor in Waco. According to S&W, although the 2" variant was absent for some time, that gun was delivered to them in 1/03. I broke it in dry-firing it, after cleaning & lube. Today it is still smoother than my '88 vintage 3" 65-3 police trade-in, despite the latter's like new innards when I bought it. That 2" 10 is a hard act for any snubby to follow. I still want a 4" variant... may even consider a new one, if I thought the blueing would be as nice as the one I have.

Stainz
 
I think that the current model 10’s are functionally equivalent to the older guns, and likely will stand up to +P loads better. That said, considering the street price for one vs. what “like new” older ones are selling for I’ll continue to shop the used market for what I consider to be a better value.

I do the same when it comes to automobiles … :cool:
 
I want a nice old police turn in Model 10, with charachter, no MIM, no lock, and a solid 4inch tube. Fortunately for someone as perpeptually broke as me, they are ALWAYS around, usually for under $200! :cool: Great wheelguns. :)
 
"The day S&W discontinues the M10 is the day I'll expect the apocalypse to start."

That says it best. I have two pre-M10s, both military issue M&Ps from WWII, one in .38 S&W, the other .38 Special. Both fine shooters.
JT
 
yeah, there should just always be a model 10 in production.

I prefer the character of the older guns with the hammer mounted pin and such, but expect the new ones are still workhorses.
 
armoredman
Lucky for you, that is pretty easy to accomplish. At least it is around here. I own several Model 10s, but my faviorite: the one I shoot the most by far, cost me $75.
It came into the store as a rusted piece of crap. A local guy did some amateur gunsmthing in his garage and the dealer figured he had nothing to lose by having this guy try to refinish it. Turned out fine. He did a nice job on it. The dealer put it in the case for $75 and I bought it. I have put more than a couple thousand rounds through it. Twice I put 500 handloads through it in one day.
Last weekend a guy was over at my house and we were doing some trading. He asked me what I wanted for that Model 10. I told him he didn't have enough money to get that gun. I did end up trading him a heavy barrel Model 10 and a Model 36 but that skinny barrel Model 10 ain't going nowhere.

I only own one "new" S&W revolver. It is a Model 642 with the lock and everything. I thought a couple times about buying a new Model 10 just for the sake of seeing what a new one is like. It is still not out of the question although I don't do a lot of revolver shooting anymore since I moved back to the city. Pistol shooting isn't as much fun on a formal range with all kinds of rules.
 
I have a 4" "skinny' barrel" model 10 made in 1969 that I bought used some years ago. Advertised as a confiscated gun and resold by a Police dept. to a dealer. The bluing is worn, some minor scratches and dings and a bit of light rust taken off with fine steel wool and oil. After a good cleaning this has been one of my most trusted concealed carry and house guns. I like it better that the newer heavy barrel models. Stoked with Win. Plus P 158 LSWCs it hits where I point it at 7 to 10 yds. Not as powerful or new and pretty as some but it works everytime I pull the trigger. I still carry it at times even though I have newer guns for that purpose.
 
Neat to see that someone also likes the skinny barrel model 10's. While I own and operate both types and the heavy barrel might be better on a target range, the pencil barrel actually has easier to see and index sights.
 
Not only that, but with the pencil-barrel you can lift up the front sight for longer shots, or if the gun is shooting low you can file a little off of the blade. That's hard too do with these new style barrels with a rib and very low blade.

Of course if you're one of those that don't intend to take a shot over 15 yards ... :neener: :D
 
Just an FYI, FWIW.

While many people see the new model 10 as a blued handgun, it is really not. S&W stopped doing blued handguns due to extreme penalties imposed by the State. S&W employees have told me that there are some true blued finishes from time to time on S&W PC guns, but not on any production guns.

The new "blued" guns are actually some type of black oxide.

Don
 
Lew Horton had S&W do a limited run late last year of 10-9s. Four inch tapered barrel, round butt, no lock, no MIM, and hammer-mounted firing pin.

They were every bit as nice as they sound...I got mine for $336 + tax.

Nice to see they still remember how to make 'em.
 
A few weeks ago I picked up an M&P with a 6" pencil barrel manufactured 1914/1915. The workmanship on it is amazing, large amount of hand fitting, and it has the old "long action". It's even more impressive when you consider it was considered to be a"budget" revolver at the time.It shoots like a champ -especially when I'm shooting the 158 grain RNL thorugh it. Which was the round that the gun was sighted for 90 years ago.

I've become a big fan of the M&P/Model 10. Great gun.
 
I've become a big fan of the M&P/Model 10. Great gun.

Me too. I also picked up a mechanically strong, post-war long-action M&P a couple of weeks ago. It's currently at the factory for a tune up and refinish. They were done tuning the gun within a couple of days of receiving it, but I expect to wait quite a bit more for the reblue.

I can't wait to get it back!
 
Does anyone know if S&W has a wish list ...? The old Phillips and Rogers multicaliber conversion cylinders and complete revolvers were a pretty good concept. I have the Colt "Survivor" and it works very well and is minute of torso accurate at 50 yards easily. I hear rumor Gary Reeder is taking on the project and CADCO has one ...the medusa as the links below describe.

Sure wish S&W or Ruger would make one available....

http://www.cadco.com/firearms/pri.htm

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Medusa_Model_47.htm
 
does anyone actually have a new Model 10?
Yep, I do, a 2004 vintage S&W Model 10. Think it's a 10-14 or something like that.

I bought it mainly out of simple curiosity, and partly because I thought I might eventually trade it to an older relative as a home defense gun.

My Model 10 has a pleasant, even, low-key finish, closer to matte black than to the sublime shiny blue of past S&Ws. However, I replaced the stock rubber grips (Butler Creek, I think) with a Hogue wooden grip and the resulting contrast of the warm auburn grips with black figure against the businesslike black gun frame is very handsome. I will note that although I swapped out the stock rubber grips for aesthetic reasons, they are functionally excellent grips. Rubber is pretty firm, and the size and shape fit just right.

The revolver has very good balance in the hand. The heavy barrel adds a little extra weight but the .38+P gun is still lighter and handier than the typical 4" .357.

Box trigger was smooth, a little heavy, typical of new Smiths. Lockup is tight. The gun shoots very accurately over the fixed sights, and does not seem to have strong ammo preferences -- it gives good groups with 130 gr FMJ practice ammo, and it gives good groups with the "FBI load" 158 gr LSWCHP +P. Just differs slightly in elevation.

The bottom line is, Smith & Wesson is not slopping these things through, and is not treating their (until recently) only production blued gun like a stepchild. I like my little Model 10 enough that I took it to the gunsmith for an action job and general sweetening.

For additional perspective, Gun Tests magazine did a review of the current Model 10 a couple of years ago and said very positive things about it. They liked the trigger, liked the grips, got excellent groups, and overall thought you couldn't do much better for a high-quality handgun for a beginner.

I agree with Gun Tests. The current Model 10's niche is as a high-end starter handgun. It's well made and finished, easy to operate, dead reliable, big enough to tame recoil but small and light enough to fit most hands, comes with comfortable grips, and is accurate, thus fun to practice with at the range. Finally, six rounds of .38 +P hollowpoints is nothing to sneeze at, much better than many of the small autos out there, particularly with the effective new ammo designs like the Speer 135 gr "flying ashtray" Gold Dot .38s.

The fact that some gun store guys tend to steer new or petite shooters, especially women, to small, hard-to-shoot J-frames for home protection, rather than to the far more suitable Model 10, is one of the great mysteries of life.

For all my talk about "beginners" and "petite shooters," I wouldn't feel less well armed with this quietly competent, century-old design than I do with my adjustable-sighted, magnum-loving, up-to-date Ruger GP100. After all, I mostly stick to .38+P for defense in my .357 revolvers.
 
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Thanks, P. Plainsman. It's great to hear that S&W is still doing justice to a classic design. Fortunately, it's not the only one still in production. I checked their catalog and, in addition to the model 10, they are still making the Stainless M&P (M64) in two-, three-, and four-inch barrel lengths. To my greater surprise, they catalog the K38 Stainless Combat Masterpiece (M67) as well.

So, it's not all Scandium and clear-coated aluminum.
 
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