New Remington V3

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It looks a lot more attractive than the Versamax to me, but I would be very cautious of buying any newly designed Remington for at least two years. Every one of their new models has been plagued by serious design and quality control problems, and they don't have a very good record of taking care of those who bought them.
 
I agree with rule303 posted; that given Remington's track record of late I would definitely wait quite some time before I would buy something that new and relatively unproven in actual field use.
 
The VersaMax had some early teething problems, but Remington has taken care of the owners quite well in every case I know of. The CTi was a design failure and this was pointed out even in the very early reviews. With the VersaMax, and now the V3, it looks to me like Remington may have gotten some know how back in their design teams.
I do not agree that Remington has had major quality control issues. They had some Expresses with rough chambers that got blown all out of proportion all over the internet. They took care of every problem they were contacted about. They issued a trigger recall which I view as more positive than some (Beretta) continuing to crank out guns with a failing component and acting like there is no issue.
If you are worried, I agree, wait. Everyone was all excited about the new Ruger Red Label, even though they never solved all the problems with the old one, and I said I would sure wait and see. I got shouted down - "It's a reasonably priced over and under from an American company!!" And guess what, the Red Label is now gone again. I think I am going to spring for a V3; we'll see who's right this go around.
 
I never ever even looked at the Red Label. I am not interested in a 12ga. The only time I shoot a 12ga is when I am deer hunting or someone got a new gun. You can't tell someone who is all happy about their new gun I don't want to shoot your duck blaster.
 
After that pistol that shal not be named.......I'll pass on even acknowledging this things existence for a bit.
 
I know the NRA isn't known for the most unbiased reporting
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IMO: They are about as unbiased as it gets in firearms publications, or the internet.

I have read some pretty scathing gun tests in the American Rifleman over the last 50 years.

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I do hope the V3 works as advertised. The Versamax is not a gun I would want to add to my collection. I have heard it in real life, not on the internet, people complained about the Versamax's poor performance with light loads to Remington. Remington's response was the gun is meant to fired with field loads. Not everyone wants to shoot sporting clays with 1 1/4 oz loads. How else are you supposed to get used to the gun other than shooting skeet. trap or sporting clays? You would like to get at least a couple hundred rounds down the barrel the first weekend. I guess all those 1 1/4 oz loads are suposed to get you in proper physical shape.
 
I don't know where you are getting your information, but in none of it's printed documentation does Remington say the gun is intended only for 1-1/4 ounce loads on up, and no one I know has gotten that info from Remington. Of course no one I know has contacted them about cycling issues either. When you call on the phone you do not get very far up the knowledge chain at most firearm manufacturers. (The 11-87 was designed for 1-1/8 field loads on up, except for the target models) I haven't even heard of problems with cycling light loads in the VersaMax and I have shot about ten of them. One guy I know shoots 3/4 ounce mouse fart loads and his runs flawlessly, too. I have heard complaints it is too heavy, and that the trigger is not great, and that the fore end feels flimsy to some. Buyers should have been able to judge the weight, trigger pull, and fore end before buying, so I have no sympathy. If one doesn't like it they certainly won't be buying it I wouldn't think.
A lot of people want one gun to do everything. I do not need anything really shotgun wise, I don't especially want a 3-1/2" capable gun, and I haven't yet found a 3-1/2" capable repeater that I didn't feel was too long in the action either. And I do not do plastic. The V3 is 3" maximum shell size, and is specifically designed to shoot light loads reliably was well, and is quite a bit lighter and smaller than the VersaMax. I think it is an interesting concept, and I want to see one in person. In the pictures the wood checkering is not very impressive. They supposedly also have plans for a 20 gauge version.

P.S. - Yes, I have heard some ugly things about that pistol. I am a revolver guy in centerfires and haven't really followed it.
 
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I don't know where you are getting your information, but in none of it's printed documentation does Remington say the gun is intended only for 1-1/4 ounce loads on up, and no one I know has gotten that info from Remington. Of course no one I know has contacted them about cycling issues either. When you call on the phone you do not get very far up the knowledge chain at most firearm manufacturers. (The 11-87 was designed for 1-1/8 field loads on up, except for the target models) I haven't even heard of problems with cycling light loads in the VersaMax and I have shot about ten of them. One guy I know shoots 3/4 ounce mouse fart loads and his runs flawlessly, too. I have heard complaints it is too heavy, and that the trigger is not great, and that the fore end feels flimsy to some. Buyers should have been able to judge the weight, trigger pull, and fore end before buying, so I have no sympathy. If one doesn't like it they certainly won't be buying it I wouldn't think.
A lot of people want one gun to do everything. I do not need anything really shotgun wise, I don't especially want a 3-1/2" capable gun, and I haven't yet found a 3-1/2" capable repeater that I didn't feel was too long in the action either. And I do not do plastic. The V3 is 3" maximum shell size, and is specifically designed to shoot light loads reliably was well, and is quite a bit lighter and smaller than the VersaMax. I think it is an interesting concept, and I want to see one in person. In the pictures the wood checkering is not very impressive. They supposedly also have plans for a 20 gauge version.

P.S. - Yes, I have heard some ugly things about that pistol. I am a revolver guy in centerfires and haven't really followed it.
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A lot of the times the response you get from technical support depends on who answers the phone. But a friend was told by Remlin technical support the gun is designed to shoot field loads when he told the support agent he was shooting Winchester Super Target ammo. Super Target is not fart ammo, it is a one ounce load with a velocity of 1,200 fps in 12ga.
 
Yes, I do not trust the phone info at all. When I called with a serial number some years ago they told me my gun did not exist ( 5 digit serial # Model 1100). When I questioned the logic of that statement they wanted me to send the gun to them, a picture wasn't good enough. Not likely. ( At that point I didn't bother them about the 4 digit model I also had)
I used to have a couple of contacts in the service department when I was selling and working on guns who really knew their stuff, but no more. Your friend definitely got some bad info. If your friend never sent his in for the two year check up he ought to call them and check. I know one guy who was way over the 2 year mark and they still did it for free and he got it back with a couple of upgrades, too.
I am not a VersaMax expert by any means.
 
I am not sure what happened with that gun. The last time I saw the Versamax we were pass shooting geese. It definitely was functioning with 3 1/2" steel shot loads. A big flock of geese came in real low. Everyone got to test the function of their shotgun.
 
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