And Craig C says "
Fact, some states have so-called "Saturday Night Special" laws against guns made from zinc. That's not fake news. Fact, Heritage markets a steel framed model for that reason. Not fake news either. I seem to recall that in their own marketing. I'm so tired of triggered Heritage owners with a chip on their shoulders who lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them.
Yes, Ruger's aluminum is better than Heritage zinc. The fact that the Ruger has an aluminum frame makes it a higher quality firearm than the zinc Heritage. In fact, KelTec's aluminum extrusions are better than any zinc, anywhere. You can make all the excuses you want for Heritage, they are cheap guns, made from cheap materials, with cheap finishes. The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage."
This is a great example of what they call a half lie. Notice how it use's the fact that there are Saturday Night Special laws but then goes on to give just total fake information both about Heritage and Ruger with nothing to back it up. Lol, Now "he" is the one insulted because Heritage owners have a chip on their shoulders and lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them? Of course the fact that Heritage owners do not like half baked lies thrown at theme anymore than anyone owning any model gun made. Now the New Ruger is barely out, he does not own one, held one, not privy to the actual metals used, but he is now a expert on the new gun's metal.
He goes on to make a comment like "it now appears" to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Ruger. Lol, here we go again, more total, nonsense made to sound like a truth.
I hope Ruger enjoys the same success that Heritage has enjoyed in the many years in business, and hope that Ruger fans can enjoy the same "fun" and days out with the family shooting there gun as well as have many families and owners of the Heritage. have. What I do know, is I have not seen any Heritage fans demean or disparage the New Ruger Wrangler especially with lies, speculation, innuendos and false Rhetoric.
A very interesting conversation by MGR at Kentucky Gun store, was how he pointed out that they carry just about every revolver manufacturer made. And many times someone comes in and wants a low cost gun for plinking. He said "the heritage is by far the largest volume revolver sold. Around 20 a day. I can only guess how many have been sold, I would say in the millions. And I would bet that does not sit well with Craig C. and other Heritage bashers.
By the way, did you notice how he did not mention the specs of the Ruger, where it clearly said "Zinc cast Alloy" in the Grip Frame? Lol, is this a Saturday night Special?
My guess both the Ruger and the Heritage have the same material in the grip frame and using the same materials, aluminum alloys and steel etc.
I understand Brand Preference, but it is time to be honest.
Jeb Stuart, yours is exactly the kind of emotional, triggered response I'm talking about. It's an inanimate object, not your mother or your dog. If you are going to come at me and call me a liar, you better have your ducks in a row. Please point out exactly what in my post is a "half lie". The pressed-in, glued-in barrel? The zinc alloys? The low grades of steel? The sprayed on finish? How about the plastic ejector button?
NOWHERE on the Ruger site does it say that the grip frame is zinc. That information has only come from RealGuns and as I've pointed out, they have been wrong before. As I also said, it very well may be but at this point, we do not know. If it is, it is disappointing but hopefully an aluminum XR3-RED grip frame will bolt in its place. The grip frame is a non-critical part and structurally, zinc would work fine but I would prefer aluminum for its lighter weight.
People don't talk about this but the frame and grip frame of the Colt Frontier Scout are ZAMAK. For this reason and others, I do not own one. If the Ruger had a zinc frame, I would not buy one.
It is a fact that there are several states with "Saturday Night Special" laws, banning guns with a receiver that melts at 800-1000° and that those laws were aimed directly at cheap guns made of zinc. Which melts below 800°. Aluminum melts at 1200° or more. Which is why you can buy aluminum framed S&W's in those states, like Minnesota but not anything made from zinc, like the Rough Rider. If this fact hurts your feelings, write your congressman.
Yes, the Heritage is popular because it's cheap. Why would this bother me? I don't care what you or anybody else buys. I'm just tired of the fact that you can't call a cheap gun "cheap" without triggering an emotional response from some owners. It's a cheap gun, cheaply made and it's supposed to be that way. This new Ruger is also a cheap gun but "appears" to be a better made cheap gun than the Heritage, which apparently triggers the fanbase. Hell, I want a pair because it's cheap and light.
Yes, let's quote the whole sentence for context, I said
"The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage." You see, that is speculation and it is given as that and nothing more. The "may be a total turd" allows for the possibility that the Ruger is a POS. The "from what we know", accepts that we do not yet know everything. The "appears", is because at this point, all we have are pictures and videos. So the word "appears" would seem to be the best fit for this context. Here's an example of how the Ruger "appears" to be a better cheap gun than Heritage. Aside from the fact that it's finished in Cerakote, instead of spray paint.