New S&W 5.7

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Hi All:

So my LGS was hosting a S&W rep for a day or two, and together they were really pushing the M&P line of pistols. The regular 9’s and 40’s and 45’s, though unquestionably good pistols, just don’t do anything for me. Attracting a bit of curiosity was the number shown below, the 5.7 pistol. I liked the funky action - it uses a barrel shroud and a rotating lockup design. I don’t think one can really call it “gas operated” but maybe “gas delayed” would apply? Gas is tapped from the barrel and directed around “baffles” or ridges on the barrel and then the locking lug turns to unlock the action. Kinda cool (not unique, other pistols have had somewhat similar designs going back a hundred years, but still). The ballistics of the 5.7 round, while not a screamer, does a legit 1600-1700 fps with 40 grain pills. The incentives they were offering brought it below my impulse buy threshold, so I bought it and took it straight to the range.

Initial impressions: the grip is long front to back to accommodate the length of the round, but narrow. I might get a slip-on rubber sleeve of some sort to fill the palm a little better. The magazines take 22 of the little rifle rounds, and the included mag loader works well once I figured it out, lol. The M&P trigger is very good for a striker-fired pistol (edit: the reason the trigger is so good is because it’s NOT striker fired, it has a hammer!) and breaks cleanly at about 5 lbs after the initial 1/4” of takeup. There’s little overtravel which I like, and prefer this to a Glock trigger (which I find mushy all the way through). There’s a little muzzle flip on firing but overall control is excellent, and the fast slide velocity brings the sights back lickety-split. Recoil is just a little more than .22LR. The 3-dot sights were well regulated from the factory for a 6 o’clock hold at 25 yards. Hits on plates at 25 and 50 yards were easy. The rounds are zippy for sure, but lack the momentum to push plates over reliably at 25 yards. The FN 40 grain ammo has 250 foot-pounds, same as a 158 grain .38, but those bullets pretty much evaporate on contact.

Verdict? I like it and I’m glad I have it. Hopefully now with FN, Ruger, S&W and PSA all making pistols in this caliber, ammo prices will start to come down. I’m not sure what I am going to DO with it, other than shoot it at the range. It may accompany me for coyote defense when I am walking the dogs in the hundred acre wood across the street, or my wife or daughter might steal it ‘cause it’s fun to shoot.

Anyway, enough of my yakin’, here it is:

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I knew I liked you! Boozeman!

5.7 pistol are fun, got the Ruger, Light and HiCap too. But suppressing it is SILLY. Light round going under 1100 is pretty much a .22
 
I love mine as well. I too shot one at a demo event and brought one home.

I liked the clever barrel design and its fantastic trigger. As for ammo, who knows. It’s not a mainstream caliber, but I hardly shoot these days so I the cost isn’t a factor. I figured it’d be easy to shoot and manipulate one day when I’m old and weak.
 
Haha! I am feeling older and weaker every day myself. I LOVE shooting my full-house .357s and 44 Mags but the low-to-no recoil pistols and revolvers in my collection are getting more of a workout all the time. This one’s easy to rack and easy to shoot; I don’t feel like it wants to kill me.

I MIGHT put a dot on it; any ideas for an RMSc direct mount dot? I was thinking about the Holosun 507k with a green dot (better for my astigmatism). I would want something lightweight and compact.

Thanks!
 
Haha! I am feeling older and weaker every day myself. I LOVE shooting my full-house .357s and 44 Mags but the low-to-no recoil pistols and revolvers in my collection are getting more of a workout all the time. This one’s easy to rack and easy to shoot; I don’t feel like it wants to kill me.

I MIGHT put a dot on it; any ideas for an RMSc direct mount dot? I was thinking about the Holosun 507k with a green dot (better for my astigmatism). I would want something lightweight and compact.

Thanks!
Ha!!! I loaded .38 Wadcutter so light, it got stuck at the tip of a 7.5” barrel
 
That’s so funny! I was watching a Hickok45 video the other day and you could actually see the .44 special slug flying towards the gong. I thought to myself… hmmmm, maybe a 240 grain SWC and 2.5 grains of Titegroup… 475 fps? That would be a nice, easy load out of my Bulldog… I’m so lame.
 
Haha! I am feeling older and weaker every day myself. I LOVE shooting my full-house .357s and 44 Mags but the low-to-no recoil pistols and revolvers in my collection are getting more of a workout all the time. This one’s easy to rack and easy to shoot; I don’t feel like it wants to kill me.

I MIGHT put a dot on it; any ideas for an RMSc direct mount dot? I was thinking about the Holosun 507k with a green dot (better for my astigmatism). I would want something lightweight and compact.

Thanks!

I have the 507k ACSS reticle on mine. https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-hs507k-x2-compact-pistol-red-dot-sight-red-acss-vulcan-reticle
 
Thanks! I looked at the SRO and it’s Hell-for-stout, as one would imagine. It’s a bit big though; I think I may want a smaller form factor for this since the slide’s only an inch thick. The 507k is a direct mount to the slide too, so it would sit lower. I don’t know yet - I am actually trying to get away from dots to keep my eyes sharp with open sights. Maybe it’s just a losing battle against father time, lol. I’m wondering about handloading this caliber? Might be a good way to save a few bucks AND extract a little more performance. This action seems plenty strong enough for a bit more oomph with slower-burning powders. I’ll research it. I also have a red squirrel that wants to chew my damn roof off; I am going to see if I can get a clear and safe shot at him with this hot .22.
 
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