New Savage 280 AI

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For years I’ve looked into the 280 AI and have contemplated building one with a Savage prefit barrel. Just today, I was browsing the Savage website and saw they offer a few new factory rifles in 280 AI.

Is this caliber gaining in popularity? Has anyone seen one of these rifles or shot one? Very interested to hear if anyone has seen one or if they only exist on the internet.
 
Looked for some 280 AI rifles and ammo locally. Only one place had a Kimber Hunter rifle and had a few boxes of Hornady ELD-X Precision Hunter.

As you stated, the 4 models of Savage on the website but none at the LGS yet. Asked about it at a different store and they weren't aware that Savage had 280 AI as a chambering. Maybe it is gaining some attention again.
 
I have 280AI build before SAAMI Spec 280AI and I had one build for the Nosler 280AI case. Hornady making brass now.

https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/76064

Nosler making ammo same for Hornady and I've seen Nosler 280AI ammo in our local Sportsman's Warehouse and they keep pretty good stock on 280AI brass I haven't checked on factory rifles but would think they may have Nosler rifle chamber for 280AI.

Maybe with Hornady brass lot cheaper than Nosler, Savage now chambering for 280AI be some interest..
 
I didn't realize it was getting that much interest from the manufacturers. I think its a superb cartridge and I hope it takes off.
 
I hope tikka jumps on board too, it would only take a reamer in a 7mm-08 and a 30-06 bolt stop and mag....
Glad to hear Savage is picking it up. 280 in the AI trim is an amazing cartridge for a mountain rifle, and should be good for long range target shooting too. I hope and pray they really sell for Savage, cause having a cheap option for a rifle will help stabilize the ammo market... Fingers crossed!
 
I hope tikka jumps on board too, it would only take a reamer in a 7mm-08 and a 30-06 bolt stop and mag....
Glad to hear Savage is picking it up. 280 in the AI trim is an amazing cartridge for a mountain rifle, and should be good for long range target shooting too. I hope and pray they really sell for Savage, cause having a cheap option for a rifle will help stabilize the ammo market... Fingers crossed!

Yeah I have a 30-06 barrel waiting to go on my Tikka, but I am thinking of getting a 7-08 barrel to ream to 280 AI. Being able to now buy factory brass is a plus to me rather than dealing with fire forming.
 
Well I had a chance to browse the local Cabela’s here while doing some Christmas shopping, and did not see any of the new 280 AI rifles. Cabela’s is the Largest gun shop around here, and they do not have any yet.
 
I built one on a Mauser action for my brother. It has a 21" barrel and pushes a 139sst to 3150 with ease. Recoil is very mild, but the short barrel makes a fireball a blind man can see.
A 24" one would be perfect.
 
Please educate me : why so much excitement over the AI version of the .280 (not just this thread), is it that much better? Could you throw in a few numbers to illustrate please?

I get the .280 part, I think. High BC and SD bullets easier to push fast than .30 cal., lighter recoil (really?, my .270 does not recoil that much less than my dad's .30-06 in the same rifle), alright, that, I understand.

But the importance of the AI version? With so many people here stating the .308 Winchester is the same as a .30-06 Springfield, which I just don't get, why the .280 AI over a .280 Remington or 7mm-08? I am missing something and don't want to go buy a lousy 6.5 Creedmore in 3-4 years and then regret not having bought a .280 AI for another ten years.

Thank you.
 
Please educate me : why so much excitement over the AI version of the .280 (not just this thread), is it that much better? Could you throw in a few numbers to illustrate please?

I get the .280 part, I think. High BC and SD bullets easier to push fast than .30 cal., lighter recoil (really?, my .270 does not recoil that much less than my dad's .30-06 in the same rifle), alright, that, I understand.

But the importance of the AI version? With so many people here stating the .308 Winchester is the same as a .30-06 Springfield, which I just don't get, why the .280 AI over a .280 Remington or 7mm-08? I am missing something and don't want to go buy a lousy 6.5 Creedmore in 3-4 years and then regret not having bought a .280 AI for another ten years.

Thank you.
Depending on your goal, the 6.5 is better.
The AI doesn't stretch brass as much. You can push it to 7 mag starting velocities. I don't get the whole a 308 is like a 30-06 argument.
If someone has a 280, I wouldn't say to go out and AI it.
 
normal factory 280 rem is held to a lower psi because of the weaker pumps and auto loaders made in the past. in a strong rifle (most modern bolt gun) loaded to is full potential it will give better the the 270win. the new AI is set at 65,000 psi and the 7mm rem mag is at 61,000 psi. the rm holds about 8 more grains but with the higher psi the AI comes close to the RM. there are the other benefits of the AI to, less case stretch, less bolt trust and others.

i like both the 280AI and the 7mmrm. i like the use of stander brass with the AI and how it fits in most standard action with out the bolt face opened.
 
Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but let's summarize: I vaguely contemplate the idea of selling all my rifles to buy only one that will do everything at some point (not going to Africa in this lifetime). Not there yet, still having fun with diversity, so I learn as much as I can on suitable options.

Target (200 yards range, I like to shoot between fifty and a hundred rounds per visit), deer, moose, in that order. I have a prejudice against .308 Win. for moose, possibly unfounded, fed by horror stories I heard as a boy, but still present. The .280 is intriguing, no one I know shoots one.

I long thought the .30-06 and .22 LR combination was my only possible answer to too many questions, but I recently fell deeply in love with a .223 after she was bedded in a new stock, she got her trigger worked on, and I finally offered her some ammo she likes; she treats me well now when we go to the range together, but she was difficult at first. I have almost not played with my other rifles since this new attitude she has showed.

So much less recoil! But, at the same time, so much less appropriate for hunting (and also illegal for deer and above over here), which makes ours a forbidden union that will have to be limited to a range affair, with maybe a weekend or two spotting for coyotes together, even if she has grown a tad heavy for long walks in her Boyds apparel.

I wonder if a good recoil pad on a heavier rifle or putting it in a chassis (for hunting? Seems weird, but I'm open minded) could make the 280 Rem or 280 AI a candidate to be the one and only, but I fear full power hunting loads would still punch a little too much for prolonged target work. I have not ruled out reloading reduced loads to spend more time with my -06, so we could get reacquainted and start a new relatioship based on a variation in thrust and weight, but I also lurk at a younger, modern option in the 6.5 Creedmore.

If only rifles were as simple as are women!
 
Please educate me : why so much excitement over the AI version of the .280 (not just this thread), is it that much better? Could you throw in a few numbers to illustrate please?

I get the .280 part, I think. High BC and SD bullets easier to push fast than .30 cal., lighter recoil (really?, my .270 does not recoil that much less than my dad's .30-06 in the same rifle), alright, that, I understand.

But the importance of the AI version? With so many people here stating the .308 Winchester is the same as a .30-06 Springfield, which I just don't get, why the .280 AI over a .280 Remington or 7mm-08? I am missing something and don't want to go buy a lousy 6.5 Creedmore in 3-4 years and then regret not having bought a .280 AI for another ten years.

Thank you.

As I already posted, I have wildcat 280AI (Kreiger barrel) and both Nosler at that time and Sierra still does has loading data for that rifle and dies made for it and it's hunting rifle. Nosler 280AI is different as it's SAAMI Spec which means it's no longer wildcat and you can buy factory ammo and cases. and dies for it.

Nosler,Hodgdon,Hornady have data for 280 and 280AI and easy to look up. You only have Hornady/Nosler brass for 280AI..

I don't think your going to find factory 280AI that you want to shoot 1000yd match with.

This is older post about 280AI and F- Class

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/280-imp-for-f-class.3778325/
 
I'm a devoted 7mm fan for hunting rifles, and my Tikka T3 7mm-08 is a lifetime rifle for me personally. Having said that, I owned a .280 Rem (Ruger 77) for about a year, and although that particular rifle wasn't accurate enough for my needs, I did develop a strong affection for that caliber, once hand loaded. For that reason, the .280 AI has always intrigued me, and I've been on the fence about getting one, or possibly having my 7mm-08 rechambered to .280 AI (since I already love that gun) - but also don't want to ruin a good thing.

I'm going to give it a year of hunting with my new 6.5 Grendel Howa Mini to see if it will cover my whitetail and hog needs (so far it seems to be doing just fine) in which case, "powering up" the Tikka 7mm-08 to a .280 AI or a 7mm-08 AI will be a legitimate option, as it is my dedicated mountain rifle.

I'm seeing the .280 AI show up more and more. My buddy is building one on a Tikka action as I type, and another fellow had a new custom .280 AI at the range last Sunday. If I were to go out and buy one, it would be the Kimber Hunter but the sporadic issues I've read about in that rifle scared me off of it when I bought my Tikka.
 
Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but let's summarize: I vaguely contemplate the idea of selling all my rifles to buy only one that will do everything at some point (not going to Africa in this lifetime). Not there yet, still having fun with diversity, so I learn as much as I can on suitable options.

Target (200 yards range, I like to shoot between fifty and a hundred rounds per visit), deer, moose, in that order. I have a prejudice against .308 Win. for moose, possibly unfounded, fed by horror stories I heard as a boy, but still present. The .280 is intriguing, no one I know shoots one.

I long thought the .30-06 and .22 LR combination was my only possible answer to too many questions, but I recently fell deeply in love with a .223 after she was bedded in a new stock, she got her trigger worked on, and I finally offered her some ammo she likes; she treats me well now when we go to the range together, but she was difficult at first. I have almost not played with my other rifles since this new attitude she has showed.

So much less recoil! But, at the same time, so much less appropriate for hunting (and also illegal for deer and above over here), which makes ours a forbidden union that will have to be limited to a range affair, with maybe a weekend or two spotting for coyotes together, even if she has grown a tad heavy for long walks in her Boyds apparel.

I wonder if a good recoil pad on a heavier rifle or putting it in a chassis (for hunting? Seems weird, but I'm open minded) could make the 280 Rem or 280 AI a candidate to be the one and only, but I fear full power hunting loads would still punch a little too much for prolonged target work. I have not ruled out reloading reduced loads to spend more time with my -06, so we could get reacquainted and start a new relatioship based on a variation in thrust and weight, but I also lurk at a younger, modern option in the 6.5 Creedmore.

If only rifles were as simple as are women!
The answer is an -08 class cartridge(6.5 creed, 7-08 .260) or 280 or 270 or 270wsm with a wee bit heavier contour barrel and heavier stock with a nice recoil pad. Alternatively Download the hunting cartridge or just admit you need 2 rifles.
 
Would be really sweet if the .280 AI takes off, I've always wanted one, and think it would make a sweet hunter/long range paper rifle.
 
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