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New Special Ops Show -- THE UNIT

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  1. David

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    Did anyone see the new CBS show THE UNIT tonight?

    It is about a top secret US Special Ops Team (like the Delta Force).

    It stars the guy who played President Palmer on 24 as the special ops team leader.

    Pretty good "gun play" -- for example, it featured a "silenced" .22 auto, HK MP5, shotguns and various pistols.

    I liked the directing for the finale shootout scene between the good guys and the terrorists on the jet -- well done!

    :neener: :what: :neener:

    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_unit/
     
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  2. BigRobT

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    It was OK entertainment. Not as bad as Commander in Chief.
     
  3. 3rdpig

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    Someone called me up and asked me to watch. I didn't care for it, it was just too "Hollywood". Jumping out of corporate jets, BG's flying back when shot, SF using a handgun to clear the plane when SMG's, shotguns and rifles were avialable, no armor or other personal protection even though they were available to him. Too many holes in the plot as well.

    I suppose if mindless entertainment is the goal, fine. But I'd rather watch sci-fi for that, at least they can make up anything they want and I can't call BS on it.
     
  4. Mainsail

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    Sheesh

    Five minutes away from a 35,000' HAHO and they haven't depressurized...

    Please. :rolleyes:
     
  5. History Nut

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    Yep, it's Hollywood

    Agreed several things didn't seem 'right' but there were good points if only by comparison. The following are my opinions only. I have no real-world experience to give my thoughts greater validity than others.


    Problems:

    Entry member not wearing any armor and they didn't show how he made it from ground level into the door quickly. No back-up with him seemed wrong as none of us are immortal no matter how good. He appeared not ready for his reload-it took too long.

    Too much of the 'unit' having conflict with other agencies/commands. I would suspect that anything from that high a level would have a 'priority' to give the FBI or other military commands that basically said: 'do what he says'.

    The first time a 'team' tried to approach the plane and got shot down they were described as National Guard when we all know it would have been a PD SWAT team if anyone.

    The show drug out the new guy's wife's naivete on security too long. After all, she would have to have been an Army wife for several years and couldn't be that clueless?


    Plus points:

    Best line in the show: "you, you and you; 'panic', the rest of you follow me".

    Next best line when the top kick is dropping off the new guy at home: "there's not much crime in this neighborhood"

    Seemed like a good representation of the importance of the soldiers' families and their need to adhere to security protocols too.


    Questionable/marginal points:

    The unit commander having an affair with one of his men's wife is stretching it a bit for 'Hollywood' in the kind of unit depicted. After all, this would be a very close-knit community of both the soldiers and their wives. This would really be near-impossible since they all apparently live in the same neighborhood. I grant that human nature will try anything but it just seems a stretch for the sake of 'drama'.

    The unit setting up their laser designator right in the middle of town in the opening sequence when the target was visible for miles from several angles?

    The use of a pistol for the entry man might seem a mistake compared to MP5s and shotguns but then also makes some sense. He needed precision and power which a shotgun doesn't have and an MP5, at least in 9mm might lack. It looked like he was using some version of a M1911 .45 which would work fairly well. He wanted precise shots and no/little collateral damage. We have to accept that the top kick was highly experienced and very good with his pistol.


    I am sure there are more but those stood out to me. I will watch a few more episodes to see how it goes which is more than I can say for my first viewing of "Over There" and "24"
     
  6. MTMilitiaman

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    Never saw it but if it is from CBS, it is only a matter of time before they weave their anti-gun agenda into it. Just watch. Sooner or later, if history tells us anything, the show will become political propaganda for at least one episode.
     
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    I thought it was "ok." Noticed a lot of unrealistic/hollywood stuff, too. What seemed like a big hole in the plot to me is that at one point, when it is still broad daylight outside, the guys in the corporate jet are "20 minutes away". Then suddenly, it is night when they do the halo jump, and everything else takes place at night.
     
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    FWTW, Eric Haney of SpecOps fame is an advisor to the show. He wrote a book, Inside Delta Force which is the Show's go-by.

    http://www.erichaney.com/
     
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    The first episode wasn't bad, but then agian I tuned in expecting a Hollywood action movie style show, not a History channel documentry.

    Let's wait until there are a few more episodes to judge it from, but it was good enough that I'll tune in next week.
     
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    "Best line in the show: "you, you and you; 'panic', the rest of you follow me".

    the line was" you,you and you vanish, the rest of you follow me"
     
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    I wanted to watch it but I had a staff meting at 9. Would you gus recomend it?
     
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    And with all the local news cameras around the 3 good guys didn't bother to hide their faces ..... walked right into the camera lens.

    I did like the double tap of the mirror once he got home.
     
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    Other minor (or major) annoyances-

    Why take a crew of 5 out to the aircraft if only one man is going to be inside shooting at the bad guys? I thought that when you storm an aircraft you actually "storm" it.

    They made a point of getting 2 MP5s but neither is seen again?

    Top sends the new guy to take out the surveillance team as part of a sniper team ("You will be his spotter") but sniping wasn't any part of the mission.

    I'll still watch it again, just in case it gets better.
     
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    Well, in addition to the lack of pre-breathing before the HAHO (Which seemed like it was playing out to be a HOLO instead) I noticed President Palmer was using those magic .45s that lift the bad guy clean off his feet and knock him back a yard or so. It was nice of the terrorist to calmly wait to be shot instead of blowing the plane too.

    I missed the first half hour, I wasn't going to skip Scrubs for it.
     
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    I caught the shootout on the plane, up through the end. Was it just me, or did the reload on teh plane seem awkward? I think maybe the magazine was backwards in the case, which would explain the odd movements during the relaod. I've got it on tape, so I'll watch again and see if I can detecte anything...
     
  16. TexasRifleman

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    I ran out of cheese 5 minutes in......
     
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    Well,it was for enterteinment,

    just like any other tv show is.These guys are actors for cryin' out loud.Let's just enjoy it for what it is.
    I did think the Leader going in with no armor was weird,everybody else had it on.and the reload may have looked slow because of the way they shot that sequence...some fast speed,some regular speed.

    What the heck is a HAHO???? :confused:
     
  18. TexasRifleman

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    High Altitude Jump with High Altitude Opening, as opposed to HALO, High Altitude, Low Opening.
     
  19. Mainsail

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    Either is, of course, preferable to the HANO.
    :eek:
     
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    Just ok. I only watched it because of the lead guy - the Pres from 24. Other than that, I wouldn't have even watched it.
     
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    1. The business jet was at 30,000 feet . . . why did they want it at 35,000 before they jumped?

    2. Inconsistent switches between day and night.

    3. Ditto the previous post RE: setting up the laser designator in town. (Also, don't know how the multiracial UNIT team would blend in as locals in Afghanistan.)

    4. Nobody in charge on the ground - the UNIT, FBI, and other military types aren't on the same page.

    5. Three man (?!?) National Guard assault team just watches stairs being lowered, watches bad guys come down, watches bad guys raise weapons, watches bad guys kill them. Hmmm . . .

    6. Best line: Paraphrasing UNIT commander's last words to FBI(?): "My best man is out there, and if you interfere with us he's going to come down and kill you!"

    Well, at least nobody forced them to change the terrorists from Middle Easterners to European Nazis like they did when they made Clancy's The Sum of All Fears into a movie. :rolleyes:
     
  22. JohnBT

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    "Did anyone see the new CBS show THE UNIT tonight?"

    It was on, but I didn't see 1/5th of it. I just got rid of my AOL dial-up and was marveling at my new Verizon fiberoptic connection. I just wonder if I'll be happy with the 5Mbps downloads or if I should ante up another $10 a month for 15Mbps service. :scrutiny:

    I did see enough of the show to know that a couple of the characters need a good smack upside the head.

    John
     
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    I heard Eric Haney on Fox News talking about it. The guy seamed very high speed. Guess I gotta watch the next episode or wait for the box set to come out.
     
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    Why did Top shoot the mirror at home? I caught the last couple of seconds right after he did it, but I don't know what lead up to it. Had to step away for a minute.


    Aside from what everyone else has noticed that didn't add up,(time of day for the jump,reloading,etc), I think the part of new members wife was a bit much IMO.(and a waste of film)

    I'll watch a couple more episodes and see if it gets better.
     
  25. jason10mm

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    They have ALREADY worked an anti-gun angle into it. anyone recall the one of the last scenes when Dennis hears that creepy little monkey say the arabic words and he puts two through the new mirror? Kinda reinforces that "gun in the home is 40 tiimes more likely to injure a family member" BS. If this high speed dude can freak out and shoot off inside his own house, what are we peons supposed to do?

    I guess the idea is to show that he is really high strung and heading towards a break-down, but we'll see. I'm VERY underwhelmed from Mamet and Ryan, this show is numbingly routine so far.
     
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