New spirit of cooperation from BATFE

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BATFE removes the cleats from their jackboots.

JPFO has just received a rare bit of good news about the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In at
least one area of operations, the BATFE is making a
dramatic turnaround.

The agency is functioning with a new spirit of cooperation
toward gun-makers.

It began last month. The new attitude was inspired by the
actions of heroic firearms manufacturer and, we're proud to
say, by JPFO's alerts about that man's courage.

Remember that on January 3, JPFO issued an alert
(http://www.jpfo.org/alert20050103.htm) detailing
Len Savage's stand against one particular BATFE injustice.
Len is the owner of Historic Arms, which makes semi-
automatic versions of famous military rifles. He was also
an expert witness against BATFE wrongdoing.

The BATFE's first response to Len's calm defiance was
predictable and typical. Within two days, they declared
that a firearm Len had sent for their approval (an SGMB, a
copy of a Hungarian/Russian firearm) was an "illegal
machine gun" -- even though it was clearly semi-automatic.

They confiscated the gun and it looked as if Len might be
intended as the next victim of an "economic Waco."

But then the story took an unusual turn. Instead of bowing
down, Len marshaled his facts and kept on fighting. He
fought not only for his own rights, but he kept making
noise about other BATFE injustices.

The BATFE must have realized it had an unusual, and
intransigent, opponent.

In February, after Len simply welded an interference rail
more strongly to the "illegal machine gun," the BATFE
declared the SGMB legal again and returned it to him.

Within a week, they had approved Len's next firearm (a
semi-automatic version of the MAG-58/U.S. M-240 machine
gun) with no changes.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL

Suddenly, Len was receiving calls from gun makers all
around the country. "I don't know what you did," they said.
"But thank you."

These gun makers -- who have typically had to wait three to
six months for approvals of their designs -- were getting
approvals in two weeks.

The BATFE Tech Branch was answering, instead of ignoring,
their questions.

The BATFE's tech experts were being cooperative and polite.
They were being helpful. And they still are.

This is just one step on the road to restoring American
rights. But it is a step in the right direction.

Len says, "I'm very thankful for the BATFE's new
cooperative attitude. My only hope is that this state of
affairs is not temporary. This affects much more than just
me; it affects everyone who must work with the BATFE."

What is Len Savage's secret? "If you want to stand for your
rights when dealing with the BATFE, document everything.
Have your facts together. Don't just shoot off your mouth.
Be polite. But when you know you're right and you can prove
it, never back down and don't be afraid to speak up."

He adds, "After all, if you're not willing to stand up for
your rights, do you even deserve to have rights?"

Congratulations to Len Savage. Continued good fortune to
America's gun-makers. And even some thanks to the BATFE for
trying to do the right thing. JPFO is proud to have played
a part in making this change happen.

- The Liberty Crew
 
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Fantastic!! I expect we'll be seeing some neat semi-auto versions of other rifles too!


Good for him on standing up and being heard. Many times, it's one man that helps the many.... Jim March comes to mind, as well.


EDIT: Does Historic Arms LLC have a website?

EDIT THE SECOND: Also, the title of the thread isn't too... gripping. Just an observation. :)
 
What is Len Savage's secret? "If you want to stand for your
rights when dealing with the BATFE, document everything.
Have your facts together. Don't just shoot off your mouth.
Be polite. But when you know you're right and you can prove
it, never back down and don't be afraid to speak up."
Sound advice for any situation.

Mr. Savage claims to have some serious dirt on ATF, which could also be an explanation for their about-face.
 
DMF, that's not much of a reply. What are you trying to say?


I'm asking all of this in seriousness, to clarify.
 
The ATF has nothing to gain by being a bunch of jackboots.

They are just revenuers for smokes, shine and sawed offs.

As long as they get their taxes and fees there is no reason for them to go around wrecking lives and stomping puppies.


EDIT THE SECOND: Also, the title of the thread isn't too... gripping. Just an observation

Done
 
OK, people, this is really mucking up my world view....

<tinfoil beanie ON>
Of course, they could just be sucking us in. That's never happened before, right?
<tinfoil beanie OFF>
 
I hate to do it (OK, no I don't), but I believe I'm entitled to gloat a little bit.

In all seriousness, though, this shows what we can accomplish if we refuse to go down without a fight. Give 'em Hell!
 
I overheard at the range the new guy in charge of BATFE is somewhat pro-gun, even to the point of allowing M14's for be converted to M1A's (no more "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"), but because the Amry is pulling M14's out of stock for it's designated shooter program (one M14 per Squad) there aren't any for CMP to covert, except the ones that Clinton cut-up. :( :( :(
 
Imagine if the BATFE were actually progun and would act as a useful resource for gun owners and enthusiasts -- kind of like the Agri extention office is for farmers.


:what: OK. I'm awake now. It was only a dream.
 
Henry, the efficacy of any agency lies in its relationship with those with whom it interacts. Friendly, courteous and professional add up to a primary way to have a two-way street about "useful resource".

If the BATFE had begun with reasonable interpretations of Congressional intent, and had seen its mission as mainly ensuring compliance, we would never have had this confrontational relationship. Proactive and arrogant searching for excuses to make some big splash have gotten way too many people in deeper trouble than any perceived transgressions have ever justified.

Art
 
Art, you are 100% correct. And it is a two way street. If the BATFE has extended an olive branch, we should try to do the same. In our eyes, they have a lot of sins for which to atone. In their eyes, so do we (both for violence by some criminals and rhetoric from the law-abiding). Although, they would have held more respect from the law-abiding if they had done more to police their own when abuses did occur.

For starters, until proven otherwise, I will stop referring to them as "F-Troop."
 
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