New Taurus 24/7 pro single action

[ssteven1]

Check out the new Taurus 24/7 pro.

I have a taurus 24/7 in 45 that has become one of my favorite handguns. I have sigs, colts and others but I trust this gun and use it for a house gun. I have 500+ rounds without a failure. It feel great in my hand and has 12 + 1 rounds of 45 in a frame that any hand size can grip. I like that it has a consistant trigger pull. My complaints for this gun is the long trigger pull (but very smooth) compared to the glock or xd and the non-dovetailed sights. Well it seems like taurus has read my mind.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=24/7-45SSP-12&category=Pistol

The new 24/7 PRO is supposed to have a crisp single action pull. IF a round does not fire it reverts to double action. Cycle the slide and it is in single action again. It also finally has dovetailed sights. I am really eager for these to come out. I think I will started saving money to a 45 longslide.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=24/7LS-45SS-12&category=Pistol

Now if they would only take their 40 and rechamber it in 10mm. (15 rounds of 10mm I can only dream)

 

[Shipwreck]

Seems like it kinda works like the Walther P99

 

[orangeninja]

Good to hear...cause with that DAO trigger they had I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

 

[wally]

The Walther QA lacks a manual safety. The Taurus has one mounted on the frame

From their site:
"Load up and every shot is fired with a crisp single action trigger pull. Then its happened to all of us... a deafening click and no ignition until now the only way to correct the problem is a rack-jack-slap or some ridiculous mantra THE TAURUS MODEL 24/7 PRO IS THE ONLY PISTOL THAT AUTOMATICALLY REVERTS TO DOUBLE ACTION and with a simple trigger pull gives you a life saving double action try at firing a faulty cartridge"

IMHO this is marketing BS! Tap-rack-BANG is the proper response to a click instead of BOOM for any autoloader! (unless at the range shooting old or relaoded ammo where a "hang-fire" or poorly seated primer is a possibility).

Seems like a gun I could be intrested in as well, since I do like the feel of the 24/7 but am not too fond of DAO guns (although I like tham a bit better than DA/SA).

--wally.

 

[MachIVshooter]

IMHO this is marketing BS! Tap-rack-BANG is the proper response to a click instead of BOOM for any autoloader!

You missed the bigger BS part of this ad:

THE TAURUS MODEL 24/7 PRO IS THE ONLY PISTOL THAT AUTOMATICALLY REVERTS TO DOUBLE ACTION and with a simple trigger pull gives you a life saving double action try at firing a faulty cartridge"

This describes the attributes of any traditional double action pistol. They are trying to market a 67 year old concept as something new.

 

[ssteven1]

This is not a traditional double action. It starts single action like the xd then if the primer fails it then reverts to double action instead of having a dead gun. This if true is new.

 

[max popenker]

This is not a traditional double action. It starts single action like the xd then if the primer fails it then reverts to double action instead of having a dead gun

Forgive me, but any traditional DA/SA pistol will start and continue in SA mode, unless you will manually decock the hammer or striker once you chambered the first round. And then, in the case of misfire, automatically "switch" to the DA mode.

So, basically, Taurus just brought up the idea of DA/SA pistol with non-decocking safety that allows for C&L carry, like that on Cz-75 or original Beretta 92, both of mid-seventies vintage. How nice.

 

[KONY]

This is not a traditional double action. It starts single action like the xd then if the primer fails it then reverts to double action instead of having a dead gun. This if true is new.

Exactly! Yes, I think the ad is a little "over the top" but this action is still novel. Its a SA/DA instead of the usual DA/SA, DAO, and SA configurations. I would love to try one of these. I am guessing that dry-firing would be mostly double-action though, which is probably good because it'll develop trigger control. Say what you want about Taurus but they are innovative.

 

[Marshall]

So Max, any traditional SA/DA pistol will give the ability for a second strike on the same cartridge while switching to DA from SA?

 

[railroader]

Max is right, it's like a polymer striker fired cz75. The taurus reverts back to single action by racking the slide which just recocks the striker(hammer). Mark

 

[wally]

Let's face it, its been a long time since anything truely new in the firearms field has been introduced. I could care less about marketing BS unitl it starts giving tactically very bad advice.

Fact is, I could like the 24/7 enough to buy one based on its feel, but since I have a PT145 Millenium I know I don't like the DAO trigger enough to want a full sized version (compromises are needd when guns get smaller than normal for their caliber). This SA "cocked and locked" version of the 24/7 could get me to buy one if its trigger is as good as say a CZ75 or Taurus PT92 -- also guns that start SA "cocked and locked" but "revert" to DA on a dud round. However, except at the range, pulling the trigger again is the wrong move!

--wally.

 

[max popenker]

So Max, any traditional SA/DA pistol will give the ability for a second strike on the same cartridge while switching to DA from SA?

True, except for some very rare examples of poor design where DA mode works ONLY from half-cock position (i know only one such design, and it is veird in many respects)

 

[Marshall]

So if I take a Sig 220 for example and I am on my 5th shot of the magazine, now in single action of course, if I have a FTF, all I have to do is pull the trigger again without doing anything else and it will strike that same cartridge a second time? I only have one DA/SA and haven't shot it in years.

 

[ssteven1]

Max you are right it is a similar action to a da that can be carried cocked and locked. I forgot because there are so few da that can be carried cocked and locked made today. I think that this is the first time that this has been made into a striker fired polymer pistol. Some people might feel safer with this than a traditional hammer cocked back (example many people feel safe with the xd that don't with a 1911 right or wrong). The main thing I like is that they took a already great feeling pistol and gave it a better trigger. It also gives a reason for that manual saftey to be there.

 

[Flashpoint]

This SA "cocked and locked" version of the 24/7 could get me to buy one if its trigger is as good as say a CZ75 or Taurus PT92

+1

I really like this idea. I may have found me a poly 45.

 

[Yardstick]

Dang!! :banghead: I just bought a 9mm Mil Pro. If they apply this DA/SA action to the Millenium Pro line I'm going to have to get another one!

Wait a minute... That's a good thing!!

 

[MachIVshooter]

So if I take a Sig 220 for example and I am on my 5th shot of the magazine, now in single action of course, if I have a FTF, all I have to do is pull the trigger again without doing anything else and it will strike that same cartridge a second time

Yes.

This is not a traditional double action. It starts single action like the xd then if the primer fails it then reverts to double action instead of having a dead gun. This if true is new.

New to striker-fired pitols, yes, but difinitely not a new concept. Taurus would have been correct in saying it is the only striker-fired pistol to automatically revert. But they did not say that, hence they are flat-out lying.

 

[varoadking]

Taurus anything =

IMHO, of course...

 

[Shipwreck]

Taurus would have been correct in saying it is the only striker-fired pistol to automatically revert. But they did not say that, hence they are flat-out lying.

Actually, the if the Walther P99 in SA does not fire, it reverts to DA on the 2nd try, and it is striker fired as well. Hence my first post - it is similiar to the Walther. Apparently, it just doesn't do the decocker thing like the walther.

 

[Hypnogator]

If Taurus comes out with this action in their PT-145 Millennium Pro, between it and the new accessory rail, I might have to trade my current one for an upgrade, after all.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Taurus would have been correct in saying it is the only striker-fired pistol to automatically revert. But they did not say that, hence they are flat-out lying.

Actually, the if the Walther P99 in SA does not fire, it reverts to DA on the 2nd try, and it is striker fired as well. Hence my first post - it is similiar to the Walther. Apparently, it just doesn't do the decocker thing like the walther.

Well, that just makes it an even more blatent fallacy! I was not aware the Walther's operating system, but it's a moot point anyway. It would seem the the add should read "The only TAURUS pistol that automatically reverts..........." But then they would be discounting their own TDA handguns. I guess their advertising department is just full of nitwits.

 

[BluesBear]

I really do like Taurus handguns. There are several in my household.

I guess their advertising department is just full of nitwits.

But that comment is oh so true!

 

[Jamie C.]

If Taurus comes out with this action in their PT-145 Millennium Pro, between it and the new accessory rail, I might have to trade my current one for an upgrade, after all.

Sorry, but for my part, they can leave the rail off of the Millenniums.... Putting an accessory rail on a gun that size makes about as much sense as putting saw teeth on a 2 inch pen knife.... Or any knife at all, for that matter.

Adding the single-action option will have me hunting up a new Millennium Pro in record time, however.

And no, there's nothing new about a SA/DA pistol reverting to DA mode on a dud cartridge..... but what do you really expect from advertising people?


J.C.