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I've been looking for a new carry gun of a small size. I currently carry a CZ75 and while I like it, it is a hefty chunk of metal. The only compact autoloader out there that has got my attention is the M&P series but they do not have thumb safeties. I have been thinking that the DA of a revolver would be suitable.

The thing is I know very little about revolvers. I want something that is comfortable to carry. I was thinking 6 shots in .357. Tell me what you guys think?

(ps, I can carry the cz75 with shorts and tshirt now, just looking for something more comfortable)
 
Here's the path I followed for concealed carry in a SmartCarry holster:

Glock 26
Smith 642
Smith 36

Now I'm carrying a Colt Detective Special with boot grips and a bobbed hammer.
It's amazingly accurate.
6 shots, .38 Spl, 135gr Speer Gold Dot
27oz

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Here's my best advice to you:

SHOOT BEFORE YOU BUY!!

btw: the smaller and lighter the gun and the larger the caliber = uncomfortable to shoot (especially practice), less confidence, less accurate

good luck
 
The only compact autoloader out there that has got my attention is the M&P series but they do not have thumb safeties.

Neither do revolvers.

If you were going with a .357 load I'd suggest a S&W 640 otherwise if .38 will suffice a 442/642.
 
re: revolvers and safeties

Carrying in a SmartCarry brings this issue "close to home".

It takes significantly more effort/energy with a revolver to:
1. pull the trigger
2. cock and release the hammer
3. turn the cylinder

When tucked tightly in a soft material holster, it takes much more effort to cycle and fire a revolver than it did with my G26.

In that particular situation (SmartCarry), I feel more safe with the Colt DS.

ymmv
 
I like my Model 442 Airweight. They are DA only. This is a 5-shot .38, however.

As much as I like revolvers, the Ruger LCP is tempting me.
 
Yeah, I know revolvers don't have manual safeties. I was counting on the weight of the DA in revolvers. I'm sorry but I didn't mention that the economics are a consideration.

What size of a revolver should I be going for? Barrel length? Is 6 shots reasonable expectation for the size I'm looking for?

I will make attempts to find examples to shoot, hard to find a way to do that around here though.

Oh, and is tarus any god where revolvers are concerened?
 
There are many Taurus quality threads on this site. There are too many unhappy Taurus customers to make me want to waste the money on one. If economics are a consideration...buy a used Smith and get a good, solid gun.

I see Model 36 Smiths, the steel framed snubby for $300 now, give or take a bit. Airweights are a bit more. I do not feel undergunned at all with a 5-shot revolver. I carry a speed loader or two.

Do not be tempted by Charter Arms. I have owned a few, including the new models. They are poor.
 
Colt DS's can be had for around the $400 mark if you take your time and look.

6 shots w/Colt accuracy

I've worked my way up to one.
 
I lucked into a Detective Special as well, but if you're new to revolvers I would tend to recommend something that's current production or that is cheap and easy to get worked on or that is amenable to being worked on by the owner.

The DS is all but three of these.

I don't have safe queens but I'll admit to being circumspect about actually shooting the DS very much, which leads to not enough practice which, in turn, means that it's a lousy choice as a carry weapon - for me. They're not especially cheap, either.
 
Hi,

1. COLT small revolvers
The steel Colt "Detective Specials," and their counterpart Colt "Agent" aluminum framed versions are nice, and fairly small snubbies.

They both hold six rounds of .38 special, which is about as effective as a 9mm round in the same length barrel.

Downside . . . they ain't being made anymore, the factory ain't workin' on 'em anymore, parts are scarce and gunsmiths who know how to work on 'em are retiring left and right.



2. S&W small revolvers
The J-frame S&W revolvers come in both steel and aluminum frames too! They are smaller in girth, due to a deliberately reduced cylinder that holds five rounds of .38 spl. (Yes, you can get 'em in .357 versions too).

The huge benefit in the S&W is they are smaller, narrower and lighter than the comparable Colts, thus they conceal better. THIS IS A HUGE DEAL . . . for if you aren't comfortable carrying it concealed, you won't have it with you when you need it!!!

Although the Colt has its fans, most professionals and civilians alike have become extremely fond of the little Smiths.


BTW, I have an "Airweight" S&W (the aluminum frame type) in my pocket holster right now. It's been there since 6AM this morning and has been there while I painted a back outer wall of my house today. You literally cannot tell its there.


A friend of mine who works across from the Federal courthouse here ALMOST forgot to take his out if his pocket recently. They are that wonderful! to tote . . . but he'd have been in huge trouble if he hadn't turned around at the door!!


I heartily recommend the Smiths. There are three basic shapes, and lots of variables: 1. Exposed hammer type, 2. Humback "Bodyguard" type with a recessed hammer that you CAN cock if desired, and 3. a Hammerless "Centennial" style. Each has its fans and I frankly could not care less which type I found.


I have two of the little snubbies, and both are the type with conventional hammers . . . a steel framed Model 36 from 1964 in bright nickel plate that weights about 23 oz., and a blued, aluminum framed Model 37 "Airweight" of the same look and size that weighs about 15oz. or so.

I feel quite well armed with either in my pocket . . . and that's where they stay, virtually wherever I go that I can carry legally. They are quite accurate too, once you master the short sight radius.

Both can be had for quite reasonable prices, and I always seek out really nice early specimens like these.

Here's the M36. I don't have any photos yet of my M37:

FORTY-FOUR YEARS OLD, AND ABSOLUTELY JUST AS GOOD AS NEW! . . .
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Shoots great too! Here's the first five shots fired when I got it. All five rounds at perfect point of aim into a tiny black, 1" square at TEN YARDS, standing and unsupported:

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My suggestion . . .
Yeah, get a fine used S&W J frame and it will only go up in value if you take care of it. Spend about $14 and get an Uncle Mike's #3 pocket holster for it and you'll be good to go . . . and wonderfully concealed too!

Hope this helps!

T.

PS: I could not care less about having a .357 Magnum in such a small a gun. The recoil can be intimidating for a new shooter, and this can cause you to have severe accuracy problems and also make you not want to practice! NOT GOOD.

Instead, just load it with decent .38 special ammo. It has always gotten the job done for decades on end, and you'll shoot it better and faster too . . . with better control if you ever need it!

Fast and controlled Bullet Placement . . . is EVERYTHING in a defensive action!

T.


PS: Here's the size comparison of the S&W J frame and the Colt Detective Special/Agent snubbies. You can see how the Colt is bigger and wider in the cylinder area:

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I own this 6-shot Agent . . . but never carry it. If I want this size and weight it will be in a belt holster . . . and when that happens I'm gonna be packing my Kimber aluminum framed 3" barreled .45ACP!

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Thanks, the info has been very helpful. I am new to revolvers but not other types of shooting.

So a .38 +p is doable in a airlite but .357 is not. I am strange in that I like recoil but I can see that .357 out of a 1lb gun could be a bit..hurty
 
Depending on how you want to carry, I'm also recommending the Ruger SP 101. This isn't a pocket gun, but rides quite nicely in an IWB or OWB holster.

What I carry most frequently, however, is a .38 Spl Taurus 85 Multi-Alloy. This is an exposed hammer 5 shot 14 oz revolver (+P rated) which has been a faithful friend for 10 years. I recently went for a Taurus 851 (an 85 with a SA/DA shrouded hammer). Both of these revolvers are pocket carried, which is quite convenient for a trip to the store or something of that nature.

There ya go...two recommendations (actually three!). BTW, Both Taurus revolvers and the Ruger use the same speed loader.
 
There are a lot nice small revolvers that might interest you, rent a few and get the one you like the best. IMO I’d stay away from any S&W with an internal lock it could be dangerous if it decided to lock up on you.
 
I'd second the Ruger SP101 as it's a good, quality gun. Personally, I prefer revolvers for CC with a three inch barrel. The 2 inch snubbies don't (usually) give enough time for the powder in a cartridge to burn completely so you get a lot of flash and noise. That extra three inch will solve that problem.

I'd also go with S and W, or Ruger as a brand. I treasure my Colt Peacekeeper, but Colt isn't making DA's anymore. You can send the more recent models back to the factory for service, which they do extremely well, but for how much longer?

As for Taurus, the brand looks tempting but I'm hearing too many unhappy stories. I'd have to stick to good ol' American engineering.

Caliber? Definitely 357 and load 38 spcl.
 
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