New Year, New Gun, New Joy! (Stoeger Cougar 8000 9mm)

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Just Got My Cougar 8000!

Just picked up my Stoeger 9mm. It's my first pistol. I did alot of reading and this gun seemed to make the most sense for me with my budget.

I took it straight to the range right out of the box. I had no problems except it took me 2 full clips to be able to hit the target :D. An employee came over and gave me some tips and I actually started shooting alot better. I really enjoyed shooting this gun.

I brought it home and stripped it down and cleaned it. It is very easy to do. My question is how wet do you want the insides of the gun. After reading these post's, its got me wondering. Seeing that I have zero experience cleaning and lubricating pistols, I could use some help.

What kind of auto loader do I need for these clips? I am having trouble getting more than 5 - 10 bullets in the clips.:banghead:

thanks
 
Look for a cleaning vid on youtube. If you can't find one for a Stoeger, get one for a Beretta. Don't make the mistake of leaving too much lube in the guns. A little is better than a lot.

If you're getting between 5 and 10 rounds into the mag, it sounds like you just need to spend a little more time with it until you get the feel. It requires more technique than strength.

Oh and umm... where's your pic?
 
No you don't. That may be your preference, but mine is to shoot every gun I buy right out of the box. I'll give it a quick once over to be sure there's nothing obviously wrong with it and then I take it out and run some rounds through it. No disassembly, no cleaning, no lube. I expect my guns to work and I want to see what they'll do right off the assembly line.
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A few years back, I bought a brand new Chevy Avalanche. I drove it 2000 miles, and decided to check the oil for the first time. It was 3 quarts low; idiots failed to fill it at the dealer. It started burning oil w/in 6 months, and I traded it. Sure wish I had spent 10 seconds to give it a once over.

Guns are often shipped with A LOT of rust preventitive oil that is not designed as a lubiricant, and the barrel can be so greasy as to be a hazard to shoot without at least running a swab through it.

The OP acknowledged running the cougar dry; not the best way to break in the rolling block or rails.

Sorry for being preachy; I get all judgemental in my internet annonymity.:D
 
GLOCKS ship with some coppery goo that you're specifically NOT supposed to clean for the first 200+ rounds. But that's one of the exceptions.
 
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No rolling block in Cougars, just a cam block:). A Cougar 8000 was my first pistol years ago and I used to over-lube the crap out of it. After about 2000 rounds I noticed greasy looking stuff coming out of the space between the frame and extractor. I punched the extractor pin out to find it PACKED with gunk. Since the extractor resides in the same channel as the firing pin rides, the pin and return spring were also completely packed crap. The gun had been running perfectly with all of that in there! These guns will hold up to a lot of HOT loads and FILTHY operating conditions.
 
Just want to say thanks to all for the good info on cleaning/lubing a Cougar. I bought mine (9mm) NIB a couple weeks ago and took it straight to the range (without cleaning first). Luckily, no problems at all. Totally perfect. By the way, if anyone is interested, here's a photo of mine with Beretta wood grips that I bought on eBay. Sorry for the very low quality photo, I took it with my phone.
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Yeah, I read some good articles online and watched a couple of videos. I think I got it down. The only thing I need now is an easy loader. My fingers are killing me.
 
A few years back, I bought a brand new Chevy Avalanche. I drove it 2000 miles, and decided to check the oil for the first time. It was 3 quarts low; idiots failed to fill it at the dealer. It started burning oil w/in 6 months, and I traded it. Sure wish I had spent 10 seconds to give it a once over.

Guns are often shipped with A LOT of rust preventitive oil that is not designed as a lubricant, and the barrel can be so greasy as to be a hazard to shoot without at least running a swab through it.

The OP acknowledged running the cougar dry; not the best way to break in the rolling block or rails.

Sorry for being preachy; I get all judgemental in my internet annonymity.
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Your issue should have been with the Chevy factory, not the dealership. Vehicles aren't shipped dry, they're filled with oil, etc. there and driven off the line, on and off the delivery truck, etc. I used to work in dealership service depts and can't recall the oil ever being checked on newly delivered vehicles. The assumption was that they were full from the factory.

Anyway, I've been doing it my way for a few decades now and I'll continue to shoot them right out of the box. I've never damaged or shortened the life of a gun due to the practice and it gives me a chance to evaluate the weapon as delivered.
 
Wow...I have a crack in my barrel.

I just got my cougar a month ago and have about 150 rds through it and when I was loading my clip at the range today, I looked down and noticed something funny about my barrel and I looked closer and there was a crack running from the edge of the opening about 1 and 1/2 inches down the side of my barrel. :cuss:

I will contact my gun dealer first thing tuesday. :confused:
 
thanks CP, My dealer isnt open on weekends and it just so happened to happen on a long weekend. I am interested to see what they suggest. Having the gun less than a month and with so little use, I hope they tell me to bring the gun in and just exchange it. My uncle said that they will probably just replace the barrel.
 
Sent my gun back to the manufacturer.

I am a little disapointed in the response of both my dealer and the manufactuer. Having had the gun less than 30 days and shooting only 120 rds through the gun. I thought my dealer would have been more proactive than "all gun sales are final and that's what the warranty is for".

The manufacturer made me pay the shipping fees to get the gun back to them. I might get that back but their response has been a little disturbing also.

I gotta laugh, all the hours of research and study to make my first gun purchase and I buy a gun that breaks after 2 uses. The final verdict is not in yet and I will give this company the opportunity to "do the right thing." I was hoping for them to say just box it up and send it in and we will ship you a new gun...maybe they still will.
 
Redarmy67, I sincerely regret to hear of how this is working out for you. (Especially so since this is your first pistol.) However, life is filled with disappointments, and guns are not exempt from that. Please keep us posted as to how Stoeger handles this...

On a positive note, I keep a fired-round count on all the guns that I purchase new. This week I reached the 2,500 round mark in this Stoeger Cougar 8000. It is a joy to shoot each time it goes to the range with me and I like this gun better than any other 9mm that I've owned.

I'm pulling hard for you and am in hopes that Stoeger resolves this speedily and to your satisfaction...

CP
 
still waiting...

it's official, stoeger has had my gun longer than I owned it. I am waiting for their Sr. Gunsmith to look at my gun. this is really pitiful. :(
 
Finally...

I got a call today from the manufactuer and they informed me that they found the gun to be a manufacturer's defect and they are sending me a brand new gun.

I could have told them that but i also understand that they have to do their process...it took longer than i would have liked but I will get my stoeger cougar 9mm back and hopefully put this behind me.

I will be curious to see if they ship me a brand new kit with the 2 clips or if they will go the cheap route and send me a new gun minus the clips and cleaning kit.

I had to pay shipping to get the broken gun to them so hopefully I will pick up a couple of extra clips out of this experience. Either way, I will be excited to get my gun back. :D
 
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