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New York small game mz laws?

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  1. troy fairweather

    troy fairweather Member

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    Can anyone find the regs for small game hunting with a muzzleloader, I thought it was 32 caliber and down for small game with a mz but that was years ago. For deer they have to be bigger then 44 but see nothing for small game. Hate to find out the hard ways ny is famous for those unwritten laws.

    I am looking to get a 32 or 36 caliber barrel for my underhammer think I am leaning 36 now.
    I my call dec tomorrow and see that they say but that has not worked out in the past either. If all mz's have to be 44 and up I'll build a 45 or see if I can get a 62 caliber fowler.
     
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    I just Googled that states hunting regulations and stopped reading after “Definition of Muzzle Loading Firearms”. 44 Caliber and up. I’d just go to a ranger station or what ever NY calls their Conservation Officers and ask.

    I’m guessing upstate is a pretty nice place to live, but I cringe on my annual Rhode Island to Florida drive. The pucker factor is at 10+ until I’m clear of NY/NJ.
     
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    Problem is one times they don't even know the laws, had a Dec last year say a lot of things are up to the dec Giving the fine. For a few years we tried to ask what the law was on cleaning fish in the water, was told it's fine, last year my buddy got a heavy fine for doing it. I will see if I can get a call in today.

    Looks like we can't use bp revolvers anymore to hunt with even if there 44 and bigger. I'd like to get a double barrel mz but we can't used them either.
     
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    Great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.
     
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  5. Jessesky

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    Laws aside, I would rather the .36 than .32. I can only imagine how few shots it takes to foul up a .32 before you can’t even ram a ball down
     
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    Good point, on the other hand how many shots do it take to kill a squirrel..................:rofl:
     
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    The DEC book says you may use an air rifle for small game, but not birds. If you can use an air rifle ,there should be no issue with a caplock. The min. size .44 is for big game.
     
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    But if yo look more on the air rifle laws they can't be bigger then 22 caliber.
     
  9. Flintshooter

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    I read this comment a lot and can’t really understand why.
    In competition you wipe between each shot and the problem is solved. In a hunting situation you will have time to wipe between shots 95% of the time.
    My current .32 is a Kibler SMR. I have shot it a lot and have yet to have trouble getting a ball down even with the 46” barrel.
    My previous .32, an Issac Haines style, was stolen in 1999. When I was shooting it the no blowing down the barrel rule didn’t exist and so there was no wiping between shots. I don’t recall ever having any problems loading it either.
     
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    The traditions I had in 32 I never had any problem, but like to try the 36. I looked up the kibler the other day and now I really want one. He hard to pick witch gun and what caliber to get. The smr would be nice in 36 but the 45 I can use for deer and manage to use it for small game. But the colonial looks good and his lock looks good. Jim just made a video of a new lock it maybe for the smr. I messaged him about it. I may have to seek a few guns to pay for one. It would be the best mz I ever had by far.
     
  11. Flintshooter

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    I have owned more flintlock rifles than I can remember. All were one of a kind hand built ones, ranging from good to fine. None have impressed me more than the Kibler SMR. There is a gracefulness to it that the best production rifle ever made doesn’t even come close to.
    Most of my shooting is with a North Star West Officers fusil. But when I shoot a rifle, most of the time it’s the .32 Kibler.
     
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    I need a flint lock it would give me more reasons to get the PA licence. The colonial looks good to but I Am not crazy for brass I guess I could darken it. If I can sell my trapdoor sp 50/70 that would pay for about 1/2.
     
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