Newb 9mm question

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I am looking for a 9mm pistol and wondered if you had any suggestions.

I am under the impression that the 9mm is much easer to handle (less kick) and cheaper ammo than a .40 or .45, but still a decent gun. Any suggestions for a gun, I know Glock is a good name and has a fat hilt (I have big hands so that's a good thing), but I was wondering if there was anything about as good for less $$$
 
Take a look at the Springfield XD9 !!!!!
My fav 9mm is more expensive but in my opinion worth the money , Sig P226
 
You might want to check out the XD's, and be sure to hold an M&P, you can change out the back strap to your hand size and feel(small,med.,large). Both will be less than the Glocks. The CZ's are very nice also. And the Taurus 24/7 Pro line has a grip similar to the XD and M&P, with the 17 rd. mags to boot.
 
The Browning Hi-Power is another option in the world of "not too expensive" 9mms.

Oh, and about the CZ pistols: Just don't bother with the CZ-100. The CZ-75, P01, PCR, etc are fine -- it's just that 100 that stinks. Horrible trigger on that thing.

Kel-Tec and Bersa both makes 9mms that would run you right around $300. I'm not so sure they're a good gun first gun, but they're decent.

You can go with a Ruger (p85? I forget their model numbers) or a new S&W Sigma but the triggers aren't going to be as good as they are on the BHP's or CZ's.

Food for though.
 
I thought the going rate for a FN BHP these days was around $400? Maybe it's been too long since I've checked.

There's a thread from 2005 that says exactly that: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=146782

I'll see if I can find a current price when I get home. I might be way off.

Edit:: The CDNN catalog puts an FN BHP at $439. Guess I wasn't too far off.
 
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As a Bersa owner, I recommend them! It will shoot any ammo you feed it with, and it'll go well with your big hands, 17 double-stacked mag.
 
dhimes

If you have the money a Sig is the way to go-but if funds are limited you cannot beat the Taurus 24/7. I own two of them in .40 cal [they make a nice 9mm] and you cannot make these guns any better for the money. The 24/7 was the NRA 2005 pistol of the year for good reason. I have never had any failure, of any kind, in either gun, after thousands of rounds through both of them. Take Care!

The Best to You and Yours!

Frank


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first and foremost i shall inform you that there are some gun makers out there that there weapons recoil less or than other guns in the same caliber and approx size. ie glock 23's which are the mid size also know as the compact model they are brutal when i shoot them. the recoil is ridiculious, but in an xd service model, and my xd sc and even my kahr-k-40 which is itty bitty, i still don't get near the muzzle flip that i do with glock .40 handguns, and yes all teh guns i listed above are in .40 as well.

just have to check out various makers, though they are close in size and the same caliber dosen't mean that they are shoot anywhere near the same.

also there are things that can be done to guns that will lessen felt recoil or muzzle flip if you will. which is heavier recoil springs, which work great. i like th wolff springs.

anyway not to discourage you from 9mm by no means, and glock makes wonderful 9mm handguns, but do check out several different makers, and thier offereings, and get what you like best and what fits you. btw 9mm is pretty darn cheap and that makes trainning come at a lower price point!
 
Possum's right

Caliber isn't everything, and things are more complicated than "9mm is easier recoiling than .40 or .45." (I know I'm not quoting you, but similar things are frequently said :))

1) As possum said, guns in the same caliber can feel very different -- everyone has a different combination of taste, body size, posture, grip strength, etc -- shoot as many different kinds as you can to get an idea of what sort feels comfortable for you.

1') Despite that, people sometimes exaggerate the differences between guns, for many reasons. Maybe they really feel that strongly about the difference in grip angle between an XD and a Glock *, maybe it's a bad case of cognitive dissonance, maybe it's just rah-rah fanboyism** or its opposite (the desire to denigrate the competition). There's absolutely nothing wrong with liking the feel of very different guns -- no accounting for taste, YMMV, shalom.

2) Take caliber-strength descriptions with a grain of salt; it's something people get worked up about sometimes way past the point of distinguishability. I am not a deeply seasoned shooter by any means -- have been a casual shooter for several years, but mostly have to live vicariously ;) -- but I've shot at least a few shots from quite a few calibers. Don't buy the hype that there's a simple "easiest shooting" to "hardest shooting" continuum, except perhaps that .22LR is the easiest readily available ammo. (Corrections appreciated on that count!).

Once you're in the land of mid-size centerfire pistol cartridges, I think in most circumstances the gun-shooter complex matters more than the caliber when it comes to perceived recoil. (And by midsize, I'm counting 380 -- which is pretty small -- up to .357 magnum ... arbitrary, but Hey.) A .45ACP from a 4" or 5" Smith and Wesson 625 (a nice stainless revolver) is a lot nicer on *my* hands than a 9mm from a smallish autopistol, but neither is really all that bad.

It's easy to tell the difference between .357 Magnum and .38 special in every revolver from which I've fired both of those cartridges, but the difference in noise is IMO worse than the difference in kick.

People have different tolerances for repeated fire, too -- to me, 100 rounds is generally enough at a session for .45, whereas my arms get tired from *holding* the gun when I'm firing .22 long for a long time; recoil there just isn't an issue.

Bottom line: 9mm is a pleasant cartridge to shoot, but you might want to give others a try, too.

Oh, and one pistol I've not fired but would like to based on reviews is the Stoeger (nee Beretta) Cougar; its rotating barrel is supposed to dampen the recoil a bit, too: http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/cougar8000.tpl

It's not small, but for $350 seems like a bargain.

timothy




* (Which is silly -- everyone knows the XD has the perfect angle, and Glocks are guaranteed wrist breakers foisted on the U.S. by Austrian provocateurs, so there's really nothing to get worked up about)

** Which can be very good natured, note!
 
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