Newbie looking for help with .223 ammo

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"Ammo made by people with steel teeth"??? Any other generalization you'd care to make? Like all Irish being drunks, all Italians being mafiosa or all Polish being stupid? Most of the Russians I've met are decent, hardworking people which is a lot more than I can say for some Americans I see.

Just ran some WOLF .223 through my CZ 527 (a rifle made by more of them dirty ferriners) and it shoots fine.
FYI, Wolf Match Target .22LR ammo is THE best there is in lots of folks minds and you can check RimFire Central.com and see for yourself or come watch me put Wolf MT through my Remington 513-T and I'll prove it.
I think there needs to be a distinction made here. If you reload, fine. If you're shooting paper for tight groups, fine. But for the guy who just wants to plink or even casually target shoot or familiarize himself with a firearm, there is nothing wrong with Wolf. But to say that "Oh, you HAVE to reload and you HAVE to shoot this ammo" as a yardstick for everyone is kind of snobbish. Things like that tend to turn some people off to shooting. I've seen more than one guy out shooting his new Saiga and here comes this guy with a Weatherby or a tricked-out AR, laughing at this guy with a Saiga, insulting his "commie gun" and telling him to get a "real gun", blah, bah, blah. This is where I drew some of the inspiration for my "Gun Shop Goobers" threads over in the General Discussion forum. Not every shooter can afford the high-dollar ammo. Not every shooter NEEDS to buy high-dollar ammo. For me if shooting ceases to be fun, I'll wrap my weapons in cosmo and stash them away and spend more time shooting my bow. I don't care how much money you "save" reloading. Lots of shooters are in apartments and don't have room for it (or their rental/lease agreement forbids it.) Or don't have time for it. Or just don't care to. That's where milsurp and Wolf ammo comes in. If that ain't your cup of tea, fine. But that other people shoot it doesn't make them less of a shooter. They might not be punching a single hole in paper, but the point is, we need all the shooters we can get. Discouraging shooters is the wrong approach. Now, I do believe in spending an extra buck to patronize local gun shops to keep the shooting spots alive by keeping our suppliers alive. But keping the newbie shooter shooting is easiest done if they can pay $2.50 for a box of 20 Wolf .223 rounds and see how much fun shooting is. Later, they may seek to expand by shooting more premium ammo. But the key is to get people shooting and keep them shooting. People that don't have a lot of money to spend need to have access to Saigaa (which only a gun shop will carry, WalMart would never sell one) and Wolf ammo and there is nothing wrong with that. If a guy wnats to shoot Wolf out of his 700 or what-have-you, hey, that's up to him. He may have good reasons for doing so. So, let's not pull the "skeet club snob" song-and-dance on some folks.
 
So, I will not foul the bore of my LTR by using Wolf ammo (or alike)? Like I said earlier, I just want cheap ammo to practice with, and to get to know the rifle. After a few hundred rounds, I'll probably move up to some nicer match stuff.
 
Can't speak for any surplus but LC, but it's cleaner than Wolf, and in my AR more accurate. Smells better too.

Having said that, I shoot both, and reload too. Depends on what I want to do. Practice is good, no matter what's on the headstamp.
 
JimUCD

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Welcome to THR.

You might just end up reloading one of these days if you don't already BUT it always make sense in my book to know of one or two kinds of commercial ammo you and your rifle shoot well.

For me it's the 40 round boxes of 223 Varmet Win White Box at Walmart. Yes, I can reload something better, but it's cool being able to get 40 rounds of pretty "dang accurate" ammo for 10 bucks and shooting that sometimes too. I like Win brass to reload with my neck sizer after I emply it the first time. Not THAT ends up being some accurate stuff.
When I first got my 223 the first time I went to the range I bet I had a dozen different kinds of commercial and military ammo with me. Somewhere I still have the targets.

One of the great things about the shooting sports is experimentation!

Enjoy the new rifle and take care,
S-
 
Why write 50 intelligent, to-the-point words,when you can write 1000 words of meaningless jibberish?? Darned if I know!
 
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