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Newest revolver and project

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Im a wheelgun fan i also like mouse guns and odd antiques. House of payne munitions in ohio had a non functioning Kolb baby hammerless 22 short mini revolver from early 1900's and i had to make it mine. IMG_20230812_111154.jpg ive got it tore down for a good cleaning. It was pretty gummed up from 100+ years of conceal carry. Once shes back together if she still dont go bang ill have a better idea of what parts i need to track down or make. Here she is next to my modern day naa 22mag mini revolver. And a pic of her tore down for cleaning. 20230823_133858.jpg 20230824_110102.jpg
 
What a neat little thing! I've never even heard of them. I would have wanted it myself, but by the time California was through with me, it would have been a three-figure purchase...
 
The american made baby hammerless was based on a french mini revolver of the same time called the velo dog. Theres not tons of info out there about any of them. There is some ive seen on the webs all ingraved with orignal pearl grips that fetch a pretty good some on the collector market. I just like odd old firearms and i enjoy a good project. Ive rebuilt several iver johnson and H&R top break revolvers and even if piece cant be fixed to be a safe to fire firearm i can use parts for other projects or they make great wallhangers and conversation pieces. Worst case clean them up and put them in a shadow box on the wall. But im hopin to bring this little gal back to life.
 
The american made baby hammerless was based on a french mini revolver of the same time called the velo dog. Theres not tons of info out there about any of them. There is some ive seen on the webs all ingraved with orignal pearl grips that fetch a pretty good some on the collector market. I just like odd old firearms and i enjoy a good project. Ive rebuilt several iver johnson and H&R top break revolvers and even if piece cant be fixed to be a safe to fire firearm i can use parts for other projects or they make great wallhangers and conversation pieces. Worst case clean them up and put them in a shadow box on the wall. But im hopin to bring this little gal back to life.
Plus it's chambered for a cartridge you can actually get, not one of the weird Floberg or pinfire rounds.
 
Looks like double cylinder bolts indentions on the cylinder. The front set isn't scalloped out though. Never saw that before, what's the front set for?
The trigger group has a nib on the front that holds the cylinder from rotating while not in use and keeps everything lined up. Then when trigger is pulled the front nib moves down out of way and the rear stop comes up along with paw to rotate and hold cylinder for firing. If you push up on back of trigger group without pulling trigger it moves that front nib down letting you free spin cylinder so you can load unload from the open loading gate on right side. 20230824_104318.jpg
Not a great pic but you can see that front nib cylinder stop on trigger group. After cleaning everything and reassembly that nib is worn down quite a bit and letting the cylinder free spin all the time. So its deffently gonna have to be fixed or replaced.
 
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There was a fella named frank sellers wrote a book about the baby hammerless mini revolvers. And its as close to an authority on these particular revolvers as can be found. There mainly part of that insignificant category of antique firearms that slips through the cracks and only niche markets and odd collectors like me keep them in the market at all. Theres so many antique firearms that have been pretty much forgot about and alot of them was revolutionary for there times and thanks to the introduction of the new plastic fantastic everything the old stuff just dont get no love no more. Ill take metal and wood over plastic anyday of the week.
 
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