(NJ) Proposed bill requires firearms repairers to obtain ballistics IDs

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ASSEMBLY, No. 3134

STATE OF NEW JERSEY

210th LEGISLATURE

INTRODUCED DECEMBER 16, 2002

Sponsored by:

Assemblywoman LORETTA WEINBERG

District 37 (Bergen)

Assemblyman ROBERT J. SMITH

District 4 (Camden and Gloucester)

Co-Sponsored by:

Assemblyman Johnson, Assemblywomen Quigley, Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Edwards

SYNOPSIS

Requires licensees in business of firearms repair to obtain ballistics identifiers before returning a rifle or handgun to its owner.

CURRENT VERSION OF TEXT

As introduced.

An Act concerning firearms repair and supplementing chapter 58 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes.

Be It Enacted by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:

1. Other than a person licensed as a retail dealer of firearms or an employee of a retail dealer pursuant to N.J.S.2C:58-2, it shall be unlawful for any person:

a. To engage in the business of firearms repair or gun smithing; or

b. To acquire any firearms parts for the purpose of, or use in the business of, firearms repair or gun smithing.

2. A licensee, or his employee, as the case may be, shall keep a true and current record of each rifle or handgun received for repair or gun smithing services. The record, which shall be kept in the licensee's place of business, as designated in his retail license, shall be in bound book form and contain the following:

a. The name and address of the owner of the rifle or handgun;

b. Serial number, make, model, manufacturer's number, caliber and a copy of the ballistics identifier certification, if any;

c. The owner's firearms purchaser identification card number or the number of the owner's permit to purchase a handgun, as the case may be;

d. The name, address and retail dealer license number, if any, of the seller of the rifle or handgun;

e. The date and time the rifle or handgun was received for repair or gun smithing services, the licensee or employee who received the rifle or handgun and the date and time the rifle or handgun was returned to its owner; and

f. A description of the repairs or gun smithing services rendered, including a summary of the parts acquired and used in the repair or servicing of the rifle or handgun.

3. a. No rifle or handgun which has been repaired or upon which gun smithing services have been performed shall be returned by a licensee to its owner unless a ballistics identifier has been obtained for that firearm and made part of a qualified database established and maintained by the Superintendent of State Police pursuant to P.L. , c. (C. )(now pending before the Legislature as Assembly Bill No. 438 of 2002).

To obtain a ballistics identifier for a rifle or handgun, the licensee shall transport the rifle or handgun to a regional center where the State Police shall ascertain a ballistics identifier for the firearm. The cost of ascertaining each such ballistics identifier shall be borne by the State Police. To help defray the transportation and other administrative costs associated with obtaining such ballistics identifiers, a licensee shall receive $5 for each rifle and handgun processed by the State Police at a regional center.

The licensee shall receive a certification provided by the State Police stating that a ballistics identifier has been obtained for each such rifle and handgun and that the ballistics identifier has been made part of a qualified database. The licensee shall retain a copy of the certification for his records and, at the time the rifle or handgun is returned to its owner, deliver a copy to the firearm's owner.

b. Subsection a. of this section shall not apply:

(1) If a ballistics identifier for that particular rifle or handgun previously was obtained and made part of a qualified database; and

(2) If the nature of the repair or gun smithing service does not alter, modify or in any way change or affect the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of the rifle or handgun.

4. a. The lawful owner of a rifle or handgun may repair or perform gun smithing services on that firearm, provided the owner obtains a ballistics identifier for that particular firearm and that the firearm's ballistics identifier is made part of a qualified database established and maintained by the Superintendent of State Police pursuant to P.L. , c. (C. )(now pending before the Legislature as Assembly Bill No. 438 of 2002).

To obtain a ballistics identifier for a rifle or handgun, the owner shall transport the rifle or handgun to a regional center where the State Police shall ascertain a ballistics identifier for that firearm. The cost of ascertaining each such ballistics identifier shall be borne by the State Police.

The owner shall receive a certification provided by the State Police stating that a ballistics identifier has been obtained for that particular rifle or handgun and that the firearm's ballistics identifier has been made part of a qualified database. The owner shall retain a copy for his records.

b. The provisions of subsection a. of this section requiring a person who repairs or performs gun smithing services on a rifle or handgun he lawfully owns to obtain a ballistics identifier for that rifle or handgun shall not apply:

(1) If a ballistics identifier for that particular rifle or handgun previously was obtained and made part of a qualified database; and

(2) If the nature of the repair or gun smithing service does not alter, modify or in any way change or affect the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of the rifle or handgun.

5. The Attorney General, in accordance with the provisions of the "Administrative Procedure Act," P.L.1968, c.410 (C.52:14B-1 et seq.), shall promulgate rules and regulations to effectuate the purposes of this act. The rules and regulations shall include, but not be limited to, a summary of the types of repairs and gun smithing services which are deemed to alter, modify or in any way change or affect the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of a rifle or handgun and, therefore, warrant the obtaining of a new ballistics identifier for that particular rifle or handgun.

6. A person violating the provisions of this act is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree

7. A person who knowingly alters, modifies or in any way changes or affects the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of a rifle or handgun for an unlawful purpose is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

8. This act shall take effect of the first day of the fourth month following enactment into law of P.L. , c. (C. )(now pending before the Legislature as Assembly Bill No. 438 of 2002).

STATEMENT

This bill would require licensed retail firearms dealers who are engaged in the business of gun smithing or firearms repair to obtain a ballistics identifier for each rifle or handgun they receive for gun smithing services or repair.

Under the provisions of the bill, the licensee is required to keep a record of the rifles and handguns received for gun smithing services or firearms repair. The record is to include the name and address of the firearm's owner; the make, model, caliber and manufacturer's number of the firearm; the owner's firearms purchaser identification card number or the permit number of his permit to purchase a handgun; the name, address and retail dealer number, if any, of the seller of the firearm; when the firearm was received for repair, by whom and when it was returned to the owner; and a summary of the gun smithing services or repairs to the firearm.

The bill would prohibit a licensee from returning any rifle or handgun to the owner until a ballistics identifier was obtained and made part of a qualified database maintained by the State Police. Licensees would be able to obtain these ballistics identifiers by transporting the rifle or handgun to a State Police regional center. The cost of the ballistics identifier determination is to be borne by the State Police. To defray some of the transportation and administrative costs, a licensee is to receive $5 for each rifle or handgun he brings to the State Police for ballistics identification.

A licensee does not need to obtain a ballistics identifier if the rifle or handgun he as repaired or serviced already has a ballistics identifier which has been made part of a qualified database and the repair or service in no way modified, changed or otherwise affected the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of that rifle or handgun.

The bill permits lawful owners to repair or perform gun smithing service on their own rifles and handguns. These owners are required to obtain ballistic identifiers for the firearms they repair, unless they already have obtained a ballistics identifier which has been made part of a qualified database and the repair or service in no way modified, changed or otherwise affected the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of that rifle or handgun.

Violators of the bill's provisions are guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

The bill also provides that any person who knowingly alters, modifies, changes or otherwise affects the distinctive firing pin, ejection, extraction or land marks of a rifle or handgun for an unlawful purpose is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

A crime of the fourth degree is punishable by a fine of up to $10,000; imprisonment for a term or up to 18 months; or both.
 
To defray some of the transportation and administrative costs, a licensee is to receive $5 for each rifle or handgun he brings to the State Police for ballistics identification.

Really nice of them to fork over $5. If this passes, guess a bunch of gunsmiths will either go bankrupt of leave the state. The time invested on record keeping and transporting guns back and forth to the state for testing would about wipe out any profit they would make from the gun work.
 
did you miss number 7?

Modifing your gun for an "unlawfull purpose" is also a crime and if you do your own repairs you are required to submit your own new balistic info to the SP. How much you wanna bet an "Unlawfull purpose" is repairing your gun so as to change the balistic fingerprint will be an unlawfull purpose.
this will kill the gunsmith bisness in NJ or drive it underground.
 
The next law will be that the receiver must be welded to the owners cranium using an arc welding machine.:fire:

No Doubt this law will be passed by the communists in charge in the PRNJ.

Similar bills will soon appear in your state legislature.
 
What a waste of taxpayer money. Personally, I don't care if my weapons are fingerprinted because I'm not going to use them for anything illegal, but they keep adding additional burdens to the firearm owners just because they can, not because it will really reduce crime.

My repair work is always done out of state, that's no big deal. I don't know any local gunsmiths. New Jersey or anywhere on the east coast is close enough to drive out of state easily, it ain't Texas. Unfortunately, from the text it appears that that would make the firearm subject to the owner performed alterations language and still guilty of a crime of the 4th degree.

Did I mention that this was a waste of taxpayer money?
 
What a waste of taxpayer money. Personally, I don't care if my weapons are fingerprinted because I'm not going to use them for anything illegal
:banghead:

You should care.

Are you Guilty Until you prove your innocence?

Suppose your bushmaster barrel was made immediately after the one on the Washington Snipers rifle.

The balistic fingerprint would probably match the bullet fragment from the sniper's rifle that was recovered, and the police would show up to arrest you. You would then have to prove your innocence (alibi etc).

There are probably 50 to 100 gun barrels out there that are a close match to the snipers bullet, given the fact that they only recovered a distorted fragment.

AND THE SAME TOOLING SET WAS USED TO RIFLE THESE BARRELS AS THE SNIPERS BARREL, SO EVEN WITH A PERFECT SAMPLE FROM THE SNIPERS RIFLE YOURS WOULD BE A DAMN CLOSE MATCH.

Nw apply this to every gun you own, would you like the police to come to your door because you own a S&W 629 that was made the same day as a gun used to murder a liquor store owner and the bullet thay dug out looks like it matched your gun ( as well as 10 others that used the same rifling tool that day at S&W?)

Now you must prove your innocence, of course they will confiscate all your guns till you do and even then good luck getting them back.

BALLISTIC FINGERPRINTS ARE NOT UNIQUE LIKE HUMAN FINGERPRINTS.
 
this will kill the gunsmith buisness in NJ or drive it underground.
To say nothing of wasting millions of taxpayer dollars and doing nothing of any real value. :banghead:

I have never heard of an instance where a ballistic fingerprinting law solved a crime. So it's perfect for a no-show patronage job. Prolly why the PR wants this thing. :cuss:

- pdmoderator
 
I'm surprised its taken this long to figure out that gunsmiths are a choke point in the gun business.

Why haven't other states implemented said policy.

You take a gun to a smith and the smith is required to record name, address, phone, SSN, and serial number information of any weapons repaired.

Seems like a logical step if you are on a path to full registration.
 
BTT to say this is important to all of us.

You New Jersey shooters need to make sure this dies in committee. Organize. Call gunshops, gun clubs, etc. and get them riled up and willing to go to the capitol and raise Hell!
 
Copyright 2003 U.S. Newswire, Inc.
U.S. Newswire


January 15, 2003 Wednesday 10:40 AM

SECTION: State Desk

LENGTH: 423 words

HEADLINE: Candidate Gunning For Change Over Proposed Assembly Bill

DATELINE: NORTH BRUNSWICK, N.J., Jan. 15

BODY:
Senate candidate Albert Zeller who is running for the New Jersey district 17 seat this year is fuming about new legislation in the Assembly in the form of Assembly Bill A3134, which would make owners of firearms in New Jersey more difficult to have their firearms repaired or serviced as well as possessed. The bill was introduced by Assembly persons Loretta Weinberg (D-Bergen) and Robert J. Smith (D-Camden). The bill requires all licensed dealers who perform service on firearms log them in, and upon completion of the service send them to the state police for ballistic fingerprinting. The bill, if passed, is an outright intrusion into the private property rights of the residents of New Jersey that is unparalled in the United States of America. The other part of the law is that owners who modify the firing pin, extractor, and 'land grooves' would be in violation of this law unless they also send their firearm in for ballistic fingerprinting. The writers of the bill left out the fact that these parts wear down and wear out, this would leave basically all owners of firearms in N.J. in violation of this proposed law as they all "willfully know" that these parts change shape over time especially the barrel 'land grooves'. When was the last time you heard of a criminal going to a firearms dealer to have service done to his illegal firearm and a criminal the abides by the rules of law?

The proposed bill does offer a whopping $5 reimbursement to the owner for the transportation fees in sending it to the state police headquarters, which we all know runs at least $20. There are also the fees estimated at $5 million dollars also to be paid by the residents of New Jersey to have these unproven tests performed. It has yet to be proved effective anywhere in the country and it has not once led to a conviction anywhere in the country.

Perhaps it's time for New Jersey residents to ask if the same government who can't manage the EZ Pass system, is qualified to handle a subject as advanced and complex as ballistic fingerprinting. Perhaps it's time for New Jersey residents to ask if their tax dollars, and all the bogus legislation coming out of Trenton, do any good at all.

Everyday common New Jersey residents need to realize that these new laws are being introduced daily and they are slowly whittling away at ones right to protect themselves as they are supposed to be able to do, according to the Constitution of The United States which are not to be infringed.
http://www.usnewswire.com

CONTACT: Albert C. Zeller, II, of Zeller For Senate, 732-247-4343, [email protected], http://www.zellerforsenate.com
 
It is not just gun registration. They can also keep lawful gun-owners from getting their firearms back by claiming that the database is down, and they cannot enter new firearms.
3. a. No rifle or handgun which has been repaired or upon which gun smithing services have been performed shall be returned by a licensee to its owner unless a ballistics identifier has been obtained for that firearm and made part of a qualified database established and maintained by the Superintendent of State Police pursuant to P.L. , c. (C. )(now pending before the Legislature as Assembly Bill No. 438 of 2002).
The gunsmith would have to hold on to your gun.
 
4. a. The lawful owner of a rifle or handgun may repair or perform gun smithing services on that firearm, provided the owner obtains a ballistics identifier for that particular firearm and that the firearm's ballistics identifier is made part of a qualified database established and maintained by the Superintendent of State Police

Sure, Mac, yeah, I'll be sure to get Big Brother's permission before I work on my own weapon...:rolleyes:
 
Just another reason to (a) Move out of Jersey; (b) learn to fix your own guns. All that legistlative work and society is still not one bit safer.:rolleyes:
 
Stand and fight!

4v50 Gary,
If we run, it will just come at you in your state. Think not?

Where do you think the FEDERAL ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN and the DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS idea came from.....................NEW JERSEY!!!!!!!!!

You can run 4v50 Gary but you only die tired!

:fire: Stand and FIGHT! :fire:
 
I was at a football watch'in party yesterday with all doctors and lawyers and their kids. Somehow, the topic popped up - not by me, but from the host who felt the need to cause trouble. 25% disagreed with me, 25% couldn't give a rats ***, 25% agreed without a doubt and 25% were in the middle.
I've noticed this before that the more "anti" a person was, the more completely out of control their kids were. Needless to say, my two bundles of joy were, by far, the best behaved little love buttons there.
 
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