No more striker-fire guns for me!

[JR24]

As for polymers, I have been considering an XD-e as a new carry piece.

Please tell me you've at least checked out the CZ P07 before you go this route. Not even much bigger, might even be lighter, and a much better trigger

 

[JWF III]

Please tell me you've at least checked out the CZ P07 before you go this route. Not even much bigger, might even be lighter, and a much better trigger

Just in the “considering” stage. I’m just wanting the 5906 TSW on the nightstand and the 6906 (or 3913) on my hip to retire to the safe and range fun.

The P07 is not on the list for consideration. Personally, I can’t get past the looks. Life’s too short for ugly trucks, women, or guns. And just my personal opinion, that’s where the P07 belongs. (No offense intended.) But the P01 and the 2075 RAMI are both in the running.

Wyman

 

[JR24]

Just in the “considering” stage. I’m just wanting the 5906 TSW on the nightstand and the 6906 (or 3913) on my hip to retire to the safe and range fun.

The P07 is not on the list for consideration. Personally, I can’t get past the looks. Life’s too short for ugly trucks, women, or guns. And just my personal opinion, that’s where the P07 belongs. (No offense intended.) But the P01 and the 2075 RAMI are both in the running.

Wyman

Fascinating. I find the P07 visually appealing and the XD-E about as attractive as what my dog leaves in my yard, but I do understand wanting a gun that looks good, and beauty is firmly in the eye of the beholder.

One of the reasons I'm a 1911 addict.

 

[jonb32248]

I’m with you on the metal hammer fired guns. I’m a fan of the 3rd Gen Smith and Wessons. But I’ll tell you what, that CZ PCR is flat out sexy. That’s going to be added to my “list”.

I owned 1 Glock, a G22, for about 12 years. Shot less than 500 rounds through it in that time. Never carried it, not even once. Traded it to a friend for a Stihl 390 chainsaw and consider it the best trade I ever made.

As for polymers, I have been considering an XD-e as a new carry piece.

Wyman

I hear you on the Glock, I have a 19 but carry it like once or twice a yr. But I carry an xde 99% of the time. Thin, good amount of rds. w/ 9 rd backup, and I can even ankle carry , easy to rack the slide and has never failed in way. Top it all off it's hammer fired and if your into cocked and locked it's there.

 

[JWF III]

Fascinating. I find the P07 visually appealing and the XD-E about as attractive as what my dog leaves in my yard, but I do understand wanting a gun that looks good, and beauty is firmly in the eye of the beholder.

One of the reasons I'm a 1911 addict.

I don’t consider the XD-E attractive, but it’s not unattractive to me either. I look at the P07 and all I see is that huge trigger guard. If I lived in the far north, I could see the usefulness in it. But living in central GA, I haven’t worn gloves in 20 or 25 years (and I work outside 90% of the time).If it gets cold enough that I need gloves, I’m not leaving the house.

Wyman

 

[bannockburn]

JDR

You know besides the Pachmayr grips (I didn't care for the shape of those plastic grips which came with the gun), I haven't done a thing to modify my Browning Hi-Power. The trigger was so good right out of the box that I didn't even bother removing the mag disconnect. And finally sights I could see (couldn't get a decent sight picture with an older T Series I use to have), and a safety I could easily use (had one were it practically took a plastic mallet to move it on and off).

The gun has been so reliable and so accurate that I really don't see any need for anything to be done to it except take it to the range with me every time I go and shoot it!

 

[bannockburn]

JWF III

The first time I looked at the P07 not long after they were introduced I really didn't care that much for it. Next to it in the display case was a P01 (what I was really looking for), and a P06 (nice like the P01 but didn't want a .40). I thought the trigger guard was a bit too large, the polymer frame a little too flexible, and the checkering on the grip to be way too aggressive.

Fast forward to last year when I was in my LGS just looking around. They had the new SIG P365 but I didn't like the shape of the grip frame and it felt uncomfortable in my hand. Right next to it was a new P07 and I could tell right away CZ had made some improvements to the gun. The polymer frame itself felt much more substantial; the flexing was gone and they had also added three interchangeable backstraps. The trigger in single action mode was great as were the sights. The gun was a natural "pointer" in my hands. Also the overly aggressive checkering was gone and the gun was much more comfortable and ergonomic to hold (overall it reminded me of the grip design of the P01).

After I left the LGS I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the new and improved P07 and went back a couple of weeks later and bought it. One thing I didn't learn until after I got the gun home and read the manual was that I could easily change the gun from having a decocker to using a thumb safety so I could carry it in Condition 1.

 

[JohnKSa]

Maybe just a bit of hyperbole there? A CZ 75 D only weighs about 6 oz. more than a Glock 19, which is around the same size.

To be fair, you're responding to a quote about steel guns and the CZ 75 D has an aluminum frame.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I don't think the Beretta or SIG offer steel-framed versions of the guns shown, but you CAN get a steel-framed CZ-75B Compact (note the capital "C" model name

I believe you could also get a Beretta 92 with a steel frame with the 92 FS Fusion, the 92/98 Billennium, the 92 FS Centennial, the 92X Competition, and the 92 Steel Vertec. All fine guns with a number of them carrying quite a hefty price tag!

But the guns shown were all COMPACT models -- which is why I mentioned the CZ-75B Compact. None of the "steel" guns he was so happy with were steel.

SIG also offers steel-framed versions of some of their full-sized guns. I had a P226 X-Five Competition in .40 S&W a few years back, myself. Beautiful gun (in high-gloss stainless), but I just couldn't shoot the darned thing. Mine, an early model, was badly oversprung, and SIG wasn't able to help me with lighter hammer or recoil springs. I traded it away.

(That X-Five model has a very complex recoil spring assembly, and you couldn't use the standard SIG P226 recoil springs with it. Maybe others with similar problems found a work around, but I never did.)

 

[JDR]

The (BHP) has been so reliable and so accurate that I really don't see any need for anything to be done to it except take it to the range with me every time I go and shoot it!

I know what you mean, and I agree, I bought my BHP MKII at a good price thinking that I could spend money on a trigger & sights and although I still want to do that, I really appreciate how good this gun is the way it already is. There is no other gun that feels better in my hand than a BHP, I hope that FN Browning starts making these again and I’ll buy another one!

 

[Mn Fats]

A 1911 in 9mm is a mortal sin! Now a pristine Hi-Power is another story!

The 1911 was born from the Colt 1900 in .38 acp. A 9mm in 1911 is no sin. In fact, it's closer to the cartridge JMB intended but the government denied. Anyone who has shot a 9mm 1911 knows it's a pleasure to shoot. People still puff up their chests and say "nope!".

Also, I think some guys need to invest in a better holster/belt combo. I carry my 1911 10+ hrs per day and walk at least 10 miles each day with no issues. I'm not knocking polymer strikers, I loved my p320, but I personally have no weight issues carrying the 1911. I shoot it best, so I carry it.

 

[bearcreek]

To be fair, you're responding to a quote about steel guns and the CZ 75 D has an aluminum frame.

Not really. Tallball mentioned "pounds of steel", but at least half the guns he talked about in his post had alloy frames. They may all have but he didn't say exactly which models of Tanfo and Turkish CZ knockoffs he had. All the guns in the OP also have alloy frames, so this thread isn't really about all steel guns anyway. Besides, the CZ 75 compact with steel frame still only weighs around 11 oz. more than a Glock 19. Not insignificant, but not "pounds" either.

 

[Michael A Ferber]

 

[Michael A Ferber]

JWF III

The first time I looked at the P07 not long after they were introduced I really didn't care that much for it. Next to it in the display case was a P01 (what I was really looking for), and a P06 (nice like the P01 but didn't want a .40). I thought the trigger guard was a bit too large, the polymer frame a little too flexible, and the checkering on the grip to be way too aggressive.

Fast forward to last year when I was in my LGS just looking around. They had the new SIG P365 but I didn't like the shape of the grip frame and it felt uncomfortable in my hand. Right next to it was a new P07 and I could tell right away CZ had made some improvements to the gun. The polymer frame itself felt much more substantial; the flexing was gone and they had also added three interchangeable backstraps. The trigger in single action mode was great as were the sights. The gun was a natural "pointer" in my hands. Also the overly aggressive checkering was gone and the gun was much more comfortable and ergonomic to hold (overall it reminded me of the grip design of the P01).

After I left the LGS I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the new and improved P07 and went back a couple of weeks later and bought it. One thing I didn't learn until after I got the gun home and read the manual was that I could easily change the gun from having a decocker to using a thumb safety so I could carry it in Condition 1.

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I really like it!

 

[DWrso]

JWF III

The first time I looked at the P07 not long after they were introduced I really didn't care that much for it. Next to it in the display case was a P01 (what I was really looking for), and a P06 (nice like the P01 but didn't want a .40). I thought the trigger guard was a bit too large, the polymer frame a little too flexible, and the checkering on the grip to be way too aggressive.

Fast forward to last year when I was in my LGS just looking around. They had the new SIG P365 but I didn't like the shape of the grip frame and it felt uncomfortable in my hand. Right next to it was a new P07 and I could tell right away CZ had made some improvements to the gun. The polymer frame itself felt much more substantial; the flexing was gone and they had also added three interchangeable backstraps. The trigger in single action mode was great as were the sights. The gun was a natural "pointer" in my hands. Also the overly aggressive checkering was gone and the gun was much more comfortable and ergonomic to hold (overall it reminded me of the grip design of the P01).

After I left the LGS I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the new and improved P07 and went back a couple of weeks later and bought it. One thing I didn't learn until after I got the gun home and read the manual was that I could easily change the gun from having a decocker to using a thumb safety so I could carry it in Condition 1.

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PO7 is one of my favorites. It makes me a better shooter than I really am.

 

[bannockburn]

DWrso

That's great to hear! Certain guns for me, like the 1911 or the Browning Hi-Power, seem to have the same effect accuracy-wise on my shooting as well!