NORTH AMERICAN ARMS .22 MAGNUM "BLACK WIDOW"
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BADUNAME13
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Rimfires are NOT adequate for self defense due to the uncertanty of ignition.
...IMHO.
...IMHO.
I plan on buying one eventually, mostly for the novelty value. The NAAs are pretty good at ignition, and .22 magnum ammo has a better shelf life than LR, since it's usually better sealed. The Black Widow is about the most powerful gun that can be comfortably hidden up a sleeve.
GunNut
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Loud.
That's the first thought that comes to my mind, otherwise I would feel plenty safe with one in my pocket once I were proficient at firing it quickly.
Current "quality" rimfire ammo is very reliable especially in .22mag, just don't plan on cheap ammo working 100% of the time.
That's the first thought that comes to my mind, otherwise I would feel plenty safe with one in my pocket once I were proficient at firing it quickly.
Current "quality" rimfire ammo is very reliable especially in .22mag, just don't plan on cheap ammo working 100% of the time.
I've probably owned 6 or 7 of those NAA minis over the years. Everytime I get rid of one, another seems to come my way. They are a fun novelty gun, but I wouldn't carry one unless it was as a backup to my backup, a final, fall back, oh poop weapon.
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BADUNAME13
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Don't plan on CCI working 100% of the time.
I got rid of mine as soon as i was old enough to get a .32.
As long as you are aware of it's limitations... have fun.
I got rid of mine as soon as i was old enough to get a .32.
As long as you are aware of it's limitations... have fun.
MCgunner
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I don't worry so much about rimfire ignition in a revolver. I'd as soon have the Black Widow as a .32 auto, personally, though reloading is a pain. But, you should pray with either weapon you don't get into a protracted gun battle. Actually, you should pray with anything you don't get into a gun battle, but the .22 doesn't give me confidence in stopping the fight anytime too soon, put it that way, at least without a head shot. I can say the same about a .32. My self defense calibers start at .380 and I prefer a .38 or more. More caliber the merrier. If I can a given day, I'll carry a .357 magnum or .45 IWB, but I can pocket my 9x19 and that's what I usually carry. I see no reason to choose a .22 or a .32 when I can carry a .380 just as easily or even my 9x19 about as easily. I do have to buy my pants with the 9mm in consideration, but it can be done.
One problem with .22 mag in such a small gun is the fact that the slower powders loaded in these rounds are really intended for rifles. A 2" barrel really neuters the cartridge and it's more flash/bang than velocity. There is some added performance over .22LR, but not enough to make me feel confident in it.
All that said, I do carry and very much like my little NAA mini .22 with holster grip. It's so small, it goes along ALSO, not alone. It is back up and varmint dispatcher many times. Even in .22LR, the muzzle blast is loud. The magnum sounds like a .38+P or maybe a little more.
Now I've been wanting a mini master for a long time, with a mag cylinder. I might get that one next because I can't think of anything else I'd want at this time. I think it'd be a fun novelty/plinker. It might even be amazingly accurate with the added sight radius. My little mini is pretty amazing. Well, I think 6 or 7 inch groups at 25 yards off sand bags is pretty amazing with a sub 2" sight radius, LOL! It's good 'nuf to be useful at shorter ranges, 10-20 yards, for some pretty small targets, like 5 yards on a snake's head. Pulled that one off a half dozen times when the NAA was all I had that was appropriate for the job (would have gotten mud all over me with my .308, for instance).
Oh, I load my NAA with Fed Lightening, but about once a month, every two weeks if I think about it, I dump it and reload with fresh. .22LR is heal crimped externally lubricated and moisture can get into it easier than a mag round. In hot summer when it rides in a sweaty pocket, sometimes I'll change ammo once a week. I mean at less than ten bucks for 550 rounds, no since in taking chances with old ammo. For some reason, my NAA LOVES this stuff, shoots to POA and is quite accurate.
One problem with .22 mag in such a small gun is the fact that the slower powders loaded in these rounds are really intended for rifles. A 2" barrel really neuters the cartridge and it's more flash/bang than velocity. There is some added performance over .22LR, but not enough to make me feel confident in it.
All that said, I do carry and very much like my little NAA mini .22 with holster grip. It's so small, it goes along ALSO, not alone. It is back up and varmint dispatcher many times. Even in .22LR, the muzzle blast is loud. The magnum sounds like a .38+P or maybe a little more.
Now I've been wanting a mini master for a long time, with a mag cylinder. I might get that one next because I can't think of anything else I'd want at this time. I think it'd be a fun novelty/plinker. It might even be amazingly accurate with the added sight radius. My little mini is pretty amazing. Well, I think 6 or 7 inch groups at 25 yards off sand bags is pretty amazing with a sub 2" sight radius, LOL! It's good 'nuf to be useful at shorter ranges, 10-20 yards, for some pretty small targets, like 5 yards on a snake's head. Pulled that one off a half dozen times when the NAA was all I had that was appropriate for the job (would have gotten mud all over me with my .308, for instance).
Oh, I load my NAA with Fed Lightening, but about once a month, every two weeks if I think about it, I dump it and reload with fresh. .22LR is heal crimped externally lubricated and moisture can get into it easier than a mag round. In hot summer when it rides in a sweaty pocket, sometimes I'll change ammo once a week. I mean at less than ten bucks for 550 rounds, no since in taking chances with old ammo. For some reason, my NAA LOVES this stuff, shoots to POA and is quite accurate.
I have had a NAA .22 Mag revolver since I turned 21 and could buy one. It is an awesome little gun. I bet I have carried it more over the years than any other one pistol just because it is so convienent and easy to conceal.
I have been eyeing their 380 for some time.
YEP! and spits powder something fierce.
I have been eyeing their 380 for some time.
YEP! and spits powder something fierce.
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