North Carolina governor suspends gun rights

[Iron Sight]

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-charlotte/north-carolina-governor-suspends-gun-rights

 

[Jed Carter]

It is very apparent what political party, we have to support to preserve our civil rights. Every attack on our RKBA has come from the Jackasses in predominantly Democrat run states. To preserve our freedom we need to exercise our right to vote.

 

[Old Shooter]

Sounds like those North Carolina Democrats have got that state in the bag. If they really care about issues like this (and I believe they do) they need to start remembering things like this and vote the bad guys out and vote more of the good ones in. Be sure to let the politicos know why they are losing.

In some sort of civil emergency they sign a proclomation to take away your means of self-protection because they admit the police will not be able to protect you?

Where did they get these rocket-scientists?

 

[SleazyRider]

What I find interesting is that the decree prohibits the carrying of weapons "during times of public crisis, disaster, rioting, catastrophe, or similar public emergency, public safety authorities are unable to maintain public order or afford adequate protection for lives or property, or whenever the occurrence of any such condition is imminent.”

Isn't that exactly when one would want to carry a weapon, i.e., when public safety authorities cannot afford adequate protection? That is assuming, of course, that it it used solely for self-defense and not to attempt to restore order.

 

[SleazyRider]

(Oops, didn't mean to reiterate what Old Shooter said, but I must have been composing my post while he was responding. My apologies for stepping on your toes, Old Shooter!)

 

[Old Shooter]

No problem SleazyRider, just goes to show great minds think alike

Didn't these people learn anything from the aftermath of Katrina?

Mayby the police don't want to have to deal with the armed rioters and looters, but how about the citizens left behind who do have to deal with them or perhaps die?

And I'm sure the ones who riot won't be bringing any weapons to the party either.

Care to go up against a few dozen rioters/looters with your Louisville Slugger?

 

[SleazyRider]

Consider the absurdity of leaving your guns at home, where they can be pilfered by a riotous mob, as you venture out into the streets unarmed---because that is the law. :banghead:

 

[Hatterasguy]

Governors cannot suspend constitutional rights, I suspect this will be successfully challenged in court.

 

[JLCook]

sounds like an invitation to carjackers and other criminals to "work the streets" and loot with out fear (or limited fear) of shall we say occupational hazards. I can just see it in : a long line of automobiles stuck in a traffic jam trying to make it inland and a mugger/carjacker type going from car to car to car taking as he pleases. This is one of the most stupid ill-conceived laws I have heard of recently. Personally I would not give a damn what the law said.

 

[jonmerritt]

So where is it within the constitution that he can suspend your rights? Or any state for that matter?

 

[SleazyRider]

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson

Please note, however, that the NC decree prohibits carrying of weapons, not possession inside one's home. So, at best, it is no different than "business as usual" in states like New Jersey, whose citizens are denied this fundamental right in the first place. I'm not justifying it, just looking at it from another perspective.

 

[Jimmy10mm]

Seems like a lot of people wouldn't evacuate if a bad storm was coming because of this executive order. She has potentially made a bad situation worse. The gov is obviously an anti and I hope she is outta there come the next election. Glad I don't live in NC.

 

[Old Shooter]

Governors cannot suspend constitutional rights, I suspect this will be successfully challenged in court.

I believe you are right, BUT... It will be challenged after the fact. (How did you do with that Louisville Slugger? That full body cast looks really uncomfortable.)

It's a case of government officials doing things like this because the think they can, or at least think they can get away with it.

The mindset seems to be "So what? Let them sue us if they think they have the money to do so."

It will take a year or more in the courts and then the appeals and the most you will get is them saying "OK, We won't do it again until next time."

What is the problem with just enforcing the existing laws about rioting/looting/assault/etc. and leave the law-abiding citizens alone with their own means of self protection?

 

[KodiakBeer]

I was just got hit with an "infraction" by Moderator rbernie for pointing out that one political party (which shall not be named) are anti-gun and/or anti-civil liberties in general.

I guess it's not High Road to point out the obvious.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I guess it's not High Road to point out the obvious.

This is where it's frustrating. This is clearly a political issue, and as such is off topic for THR.

And that's frustrating because 2A rights are a very political thing obviously. The problem is that you can't make a blanket statement that one party is "pro" gun and one is "anti".

We can find examples on both sides for and against.

The reality is that one party alone can't keep our rights protected, it's going to take votes from both sides so when these threads come up that single out one party as being 'always anti' it has the potential to alienate some folks in that party who we need on our side.

So, I am going to close this as political because it is, but that doesn't mean we all can't or shouldn't be outraged by this and continue to do something about it by working through the state and national pro 2A organizations or any other way we think will help.